Funny thing is, if an armed populace is utterly incapable of doing a single damn thing as the gun banners say they are, WHY do the authoritarians in charge of these powerful modern military still banning guns?
Same reason they only come out when surrounded by bulletproof glass or in sniper-controlled areas now. They don’t want to be individually targeted.
Now it’s interesting to imagine what would happen if hundreds of officials were individually targeted, but having a bunch of guns at your house ≠ that. Still the issue of targeted suppression exists, and would be highly effective.
If you burn down a neighborhood, if you shoot an RPG or a drone at a house, none of the guns inside matter, except they make it more lethal as you try to escape. They also make your house more unsafe for kids and yourself (statistically).
Arming yourself up defensively just doesn’t do much. If they want you dead, they’re gonna do it in a zero-casualty-for-them way. They can do that en masse, they can do that in rural or urban areas. They train for that 24/7. They love that.
Arming yourself offensively, well that’s something else. I don’t know if that’s what’s being suggested when this issue comes up though.
Yeah, a civil war of mass action will never happen, and if it did happen, the left would be crushed with millions of casualties. The great majority of the violent power is in fascist hands. They will command 80%+ of the military and civilian police forces. The majority of civil armament, training, and callous disregard for life is on the right. Those somewhat in the middle will shift rightward when their friends and families who are military and police get attacked.
The MAGA base, cops and military are mostly idiots or brainwashed zealots. They are used as pawns. They are not the puppet masters.
It’s problematic to say you’re arming up to actively hurt someone, even on Lemmy I believe they have rules against it. So you can only say I want to defend myself or try to imply through a wink or nudge.
What I’m tired of though is people thinking it’s all going to be lone gunmen or large formations of people fighting. This is a resistance movement, we should be thinking like the French did when the Nazis came.
Yeah, large formations wouldn’t work, but I don’t understand your lone gunmen comment. How would individuals form a resistance within a surveillance state? The surveillance state’s powers are currently being revamped with greater mass analysis abilities. The difficulty in organizing a resistance beyond protesting will probably mean more individuals taking drastic actions on their own, than if organizing was easy.
Funny thing is, if an armed populace is utterly incapable of doing a single damn thing as the gun banners say they are, WHY do the authoritarians in charge of these powerful modern military still banning guns?
Same reason they only come out when surrounded by bulletproof glass or in sniper-controlled areas now. They don’t want to be individually targeted.
Now it’s interesting to imagine what would happen if hundreds of officials were individually targeted, but having a bunch of guns at your house ≠ that. Still the issue of targeted suppression exists, and would be highly effective.
If you burn down a neighborhood, if you shoot an RPG or a drone at a house, none of the guns inside matter, except they make it more lethal as you try to escape. They also make your house more unsafe for kids and yourself (statistically).
Arming yourself up defensively just doesn’t do much. If they want you dead, they’re gonna do it in a zero-casualty-for-them way. They can do that en masse, they can do that in rural or urban areas. They train for that 24/7. They love that.
Arming yourself offensively, well that’s something else. I don’t know if that’s what’s being suggested when this issue comes up though.
Yeah, a civil war of mass action will never happen, and if it did happen, the left would be crushed with millions of casualties. The great majority of the violent power is in fascist hands. They will command 80%+ of the military and civilian police forces. The majority of civil armament, training, and callous disregard for life is on the right. Those somewhat in the middle will shift rightward when their friends and families who are military and police get attacked.
The MAGA base, cops and military are mostly idiots or brainwashed zealots. They are used as pawns. They are not the puppet masters.
Attention needs focused on the Epstein class.
It’s problematic to say you’re arming up to actively hurt someone, even on Lemmy I believe they have rules against it. So you can only say I want to defend myself or try to imply through a wink or nudge.
What I’m tired of though is people thinking it’s all going to be lone gunmen or large formations of people fighting. This is a resistance movement, we should be thinking like the French did when the Nazis came.
Yeah, large formations wouldn’t work, but I don’t understand your lone gunmen comment. How would individuals form a resistance within a surveillance state? The surveillance state’s powers are currently being revamped with greater mass analysis abilities. The difficulty in organizing a resistance beyond protesting will probably mean more individuals taking drastic actions on their own, than if organizing was easy.
Principle amount of “well go do it” people seem to infer lone gunman to me. Just generally comments from anti-gun people and those outside the USA.
Bugs me too. They don’t seem to realize the complexity of it.