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    7 hours ago

    Being close to an activist myself, they are outsiders by definition. I don’t know of any society that recognizes and pays for the job they do. Their job is very important for large groups of people, requires extra hours, doesn’t pay well if at all, yet it’s dangerous as fuck. On the side of society, it’s a loathed activity, even by the poor people, and it’s something that doesn’t easily allow people to scale socially. Worst of everything, activists rarely get recognition, and when they do, they are probably being tortured or dead.

    Yeah, who the hell truly likes Greta Thurnberg? I certainly don’t, but I respect her, no matter where she’s coming from.

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    Here’s the thing; if you remove the word “useless” from that statement, I have no issue with it (other than it being factually inaccurate that Greta’s parents are “rich”).

    Yes, it would be the definition of privilege to be well off enough that you can spend your life focused on activism. And that’s OK.

    Having privilege is not a moral judgment. You’re not a bad person because of it. It’s just a fact of life. What’s important is to understand your privileges. If she was going around moralizing at other people for not spending all their life on activism even though they’ve got bills to pay and kids to feed, that would be a shitty thing to do. But as the reply in the OP says, recognizing your privileges and using them to help those who are not fortunate in the same ways is exactly the behaviour we want to see more of, from everyone. That can be as simple as being the guy in the meeting who says “Hold on, I really want to hear what Sandra has to say” because you know she’s being talked over. It can be a white person filming the cop as they arrest a black kid, because you know that your skin colour affords you a level of safety in that situation. You use the advantages you’re given to help others.

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    The only reason why her activism is useless, despite all the shit she puts herself in front of, is because everyone who can actually change anything is doing their best to pretend she doesn’t exist.

    The only way to change that in the most drastic way possible is to turn activism into terrorism. Because activism is based on the idea of if you shout loud enough they’ll hear you. Doesn’t account for those that hear but do not care.

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    8 hours ago

    Two very different takes on privilege—one sees responsibility, the other sees disconnect. Reality’s probably somewhere in between.

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    She might have gotten bombed and tried to end a genocide and this user wants her to work…

    This is one I rip on people for choosing to be a drone instead of someone that helps

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    truth about greta, two of them: number one: gaza lied about the death toll and there was no genocide. they did this because they lost; they got all their soldiers blown up. it was all for nothing. saying it was all civilians worked a miracle cure for hamas. it made everyone hate israel and made hamas “win” the war, and, it served as a potent recruitment tool for new recruits. if they had said “our last soldiers all got blown up cause this war is unwinnable; now we need more” this wouldntve recruited. saying “gaaaahhhhh how can you just sit there as israel murders our babies, and our women, and our elderly, right in our streets, with no one doing anything about it???” works much better. i dont think they realized the world response they would get; they had no idea what idiots people are. truth number two: we need people fighting for the environment like all hell, but she didnt go far enough the first time.

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      why does Israel admit to this? the Israelis have reported that the majority of the people they killed are civilians. why are there numbers showing a lie for Hamas?

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      Hamas lied about the death tolls but not in the way you think. The truth is that Hamas only counted the people who they could confirm the identity of, their death toll is a massive underestimate. Basically all credible sources agree that the death toll is at least as high as Hamas says.

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    i once voluntarily gave up all my possessions. i mean all of them. just put them out in public. took a while, had to do several different loads. stuff i loved. stuff id had since i was a kid. then went voluntarily homeless for about eight years. now im an activist. before that i went to usc (on scholarship). now im also a stock trader (retail, but sucking at it. lost a lot of money so far). am i good or bad??? i dont want to be badddddd i tried so hard to be good; what if im rich somehow so im bad??? fuck i fucked it all up somehow if so

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    17 hours ago

    And if she got a “real” job people would call her a nepo baby. There is no winning with these insane people. Not to mention she doesn’t even come from a rich family.

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    16 hours ago

    Zionists hate her because she supports justice for Palestinians rather than staying silent

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      Their desire for dopamine kicks from pointless thumbs up numbers from strangers online is more powerful than their desire to not support Nazis.

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    17 hours ago

    Some people spend half their life reposting propaganda on social media behind fake profiles for free. She at least owns up to her beliefs.

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    21 hours ago

    Have made a few searches on Greta Thunberg and her parents and they are not “rich”. They are better off than average in Sweden but calling them rich is a bit of a stretch.

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      Is this the classic misdirection where anyone who isn’t poor is classified as rich so you can incite them against policies that would target “the rich”, when they’re actually two or three orders of magnitude away from being (negatively) affected by those policies?