Someone brought a guillotine to a city council meeting in Salem, Oregon on July 27, 2026. Not a sign shaped like one. Not a drawing. According to community accounts and social media posts, an actual guillotine structure appeared at the protest outside Loucks Auditorium, where hundreds of residents had gathered to oppose a proposed multi-billion-dollar AI data center. Company representatives reportedly assessed the scene and left, citing safety concerns — though that detail hasn’t appeared in formal news coverage or official minutes.

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    “The poors are making tasteless and threatening jokes here. Let us retreat to our hilltop mansions and simply increase our payments to the local council so they deal with the riffraff for us.”

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      I believe the consensus is that a successful popular movement needs 3 elements:

      • a nonviolent protest movement to communicate and build support with the broader population
      • a political party to communicate and enable negotiations with the opposing group
      • a militant wing to provide a threat that incentivizes negotiations

      Without the popular front, the political and militant groups will lose support of the population as well as their recruitment pipeline.

      The political party can reduce the amount of violence and deprivation required to achieve objectives, by setting clear goals.

      Without the militants, the opposing power already has a monopoly on violence and has no incentive to come to the table peacefully.

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        Ethiopia managed to keep the British out with something very similar.

        There was a bit of a snafu, and the British sent soldiers to accompany a diplomatic envoy.

        The Ethiopians made a big show of marching soldiers around the British while the diplomats negotiated.

        The message was clear “we are not interested in violence, we will however use it.”

        The British left. They managed to keep the Italians out by kicking their ass. Repeatedly.

        Non violent protest can work, if the implicit message is that “We will resort to violence if we need to. We are doing you a favor by being peaceful, do not mistake our kindness for submission.”

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          Non violent protest can work, if the implicit message is that “We will resort to violence if we need to. We are doing you a favor by being peaceful, do not mistake our kindness for submission.”

          I think this is the key, unfortunately.

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        I think too many people think that negotiation is enough it’s not. Unfortunately we do need social tension as the rich recurrently take advantage.

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          That can be negotiated! As a century+ of American foreign policy demonstrates, you can’t just ride up and wax the existing power structures and call it a day.

          You have to have something ready to replace it or you’ll get the same thing again but worse.

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            I got it. We keep exactly the same system, except every time someone amasses a net worth exceeding say, 100 million dollars, we drag them behind a truck in front of everyone who considers themselves “upper” middle class. Every year we pick someone at random who’s worth at last 50 million and do the same thing.

            You know, like The Lottery, but all you have to do to avoid it is not hoard wealth.

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            The thing is there’s like a hundred things yo do instead.

            I’m not telling you how to live your life. I’m telling you that if you keep going like this, you won’t have one.

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        That’s just not true. Its the closest they cone to fucking someone who looks like they do, without the person they’re fucking being old (12+) and gross! They care a little!

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      They aren’t arguing in good faith and don’t want to change their opinion so force has now become nessisary.

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          It has had some success in the U.S. Maybe not as effective in your country?

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              I meant the U.S is sort of known for all of the suing we do. It’s practically a tradition.

              I saw “au” behind your username and assumed you were from Australia.

              There have been many successes from suing here.

              That and lawsuits ending in settlements.

              It’s pretty much the only thing that changes how a company does business.

              Employee rights have had the best success.

              Sexual harassment. Being fired for discrimination.

              These lawsuits are expensive and a PR nightmare.

              They usually result in company policy changes.

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                Its not really useful though. Like it doesn’t work. It doesn’t stop the bad things.

                There are famous examples, but I bet I could name more history changing assassinations (successes and failures) off the top of my head than you could lawsuits.

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    Okay, does this mean that they’re conceding an effective means to counter their money?

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    So do the citizens…

    That’s why they brought a fucking guillotine.

    Like, this is the result of all the shit they’re pulling with bribing politicians and having them arrest anyone who talks back at meetings.

    People aren’t just going to lay down and take, at a certain point when the 0.01% keep violating the social contract, everyone else adapts to the new reality

    It’s like a little kid who cheats at Monopoly and loves the game, nothing can make them stop cheating and they always insistnon playing.

    You fix that by cheating back just as hard, ruin the kids game, and teach them that if everyone plays by the rules we all have fun.

    If a few refuse the rules, everyone else refuses the game.

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      Short of Monopoly ever being a fun game, I agree. Push people far enough, and they’ll push back.

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        Person who posted the meme doesn’t understand the movie on that level lol

        They just remember a scene when the good guys confront the big bad and the movie’s psychic golden boy announces that it’s scaewed.

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    This is really shitty reporting.

    It doesn’t mention anywhere that the guillotine was not functional. They make it sound like it could have been used. It was a prop.

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      It doesn’t mention anywhere that the guillotine was not functional.

      I just looked at the social media post. It’s a tiny scale guillotine. It’d struggle to slice anything larger than a carrot. The blade probably isn’t even real, nor made to come down.