• toppy@lemy.lol
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    Trump was always against immigrants, minorities irrespective of whether they are illegal or not. Was the ICE official living under a rock all this time ?

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    ICE isn’t targeting criminals at all, because criminals shoot back and it’s way easier to just arrest random brown people off the street and then deport them to death camps without due process.

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    10 hours ago

    When I started pouring the concrete for this slope, the builder assured me it would not be slippery.

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    No one is allowed to change their opinion when conditions change or they learn new information. You form an opinion then hold on to it no matter what.

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      If you are referring to the title, my point was that this guy was already willing to accept being a step or three closer to evil than I would be, and probably than most of us would be. And still they went too far for him.

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        I can accept that he was one of the altruistic ones who thought of ICE as protecting America from the bad ones - who do exist. The fact that ICE morale has dropped into the shitter reflects that a lot of other employees are in that same category and don’t like the way the agency is now. If they were primarily gung-ho look at me I’m kicking this guy’s ass types, their morale would be soaring right now, like the assorted maggots who crawled out from under their rocks and puffed out their chests when Trump started gaining traction. Those people’s morale doesn’t go down when they’re told to be stormtroopers, it goes through the roof.

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      You mean he’s not actually leaving the department of mnlftsiunbf gvcvh fgfrdvbbgi building?

      • Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        They do like their seals in the us government, makes for great/easy to design POGs coins. Unless you mean the animal, though i bet someone has a literal seal on a coin somewhere.

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          Unless you mean the animal

          Pretty sure they mean the animal - we painted one orange and gave it to Putin as a gag gift, but then he sent it back with a bunch of strings attached. It developed a cult following who proceeded to elect the thing as president. It barks out gibberish pretty regularly, and every time it does, we lose more rights.

          Pretty standard model of governance, right?

           

          …right?

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      23 hours ago

      The good news is, anyone deciding to do this won’t make headlines; so especially as other agencies are wrapped into ICE’s mission, this might happen more often and we won’t hear about it.

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    Most people have limits ; I can see this man finding out he has a very small moral code he cannot ignore.

    Or he simply lost a bureaucratic turf war. There is a lot of reorganization going on , lots of power struggles. And he decided to whitewash and reinvent himself. Even if this guy is legitimate, there will be many of the later later

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      Probably what all “good cops” think, “I can change the system from within” or “It’s just a couple outlier bad cases, but I’ll make sure to only prosecute actual bad people”

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          And then promptly get beaten: https://sh.itjust.works/post/41445902

          Dude is now a Police Comissioner, but idk how much reform he can actually do, its not like he can fire 50% of the department

          I mean the way I see it, you have to disband the entire thing then form something new with more requirements.

          Perhaps just abolish the police and let the people police themselves with a militia, seems better that way.

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              The issues are systemic and won’t be solved by replacing people.

              As one example, it would be 100% legal in many states for a bad cop to rape a prisoner. No matter how many good cops testify against them, there would be no legal basis for prosecuting them. At best, department policy would give cause to fire them. Then they’ll get a job in some county with an elected sheriff who ran on being Tough On Crime ™.

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      Gonna keep the border safe and stop bad people coming into the country illegally.

      Instead (or more likely, eventually), he got “gonna round up anybody who ‘fits the description’ and unperson them into the Dade-Collier concentration camp”

  • Lovable Sidekick@lemmy.world
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    Of course the really important thing here, the crux of the whole issue, is that somebody used AI to make an image.

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    The United States needs a department like ICE, every country does, but the current iteration is forever poisoned. People keep calling them Gestapo, but I think Brown Shirts is more on the nose.

    I’d like to point out how wrong I was about all this. For years I had commented saying that modern Brown Shorts would rise organically from local MAGA groups, then come together under a federal banner of some sort. I never foresaw the Trump admin short cutting that clumsy method and directly utilizing an existing federal department.

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      The United States needs a department like ICE

      No, they fucking don’t.

      What the US needs to do is fix its broken as fuck immigration system. That’s what’s creating the vast, VAST majority of the problem in the first place. For fuck’s sake, it can take decades to obtain citizenship, and that’s if you’re one of the lucky ones who doesn’t just get lost in limbo for reasons.

      America should be thanking the people who want to come here to go to school, to find work, or just to live the “American Dream” ™. Instead, we ended up with a whole bunch of nazis doing fucking nazi shit like tear gassing, hog tying, and frog marching 6 year olds into the back of an unmarked van.

      We don’t need ICE. What we need is way fewer nazis.

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      The thing is we really dont need ICE. We need someone doing the job, but ICE is a 21st century development and any us government department winds up becoming impossible to reduce the power of. If you spread their duties out acrods multiple departments they have a more difficult time doing this shit

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      Yes, ICE, the 22 year old agency is definitely something the US can’t do without. Certainly didn’t manage fine without it for the vast majority of our history as a country. Fucking hell.

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    He’s not resigning in protest. All the other recent resignations are the same thing: their phase of work is over.

    They handled the difficult part of setting up an apparatus of death quickly, now they hand it off to someone else to run it.

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    you now see? it should have been blatantly obvious. I didn’t even read anything and saw how fake it is visually

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        10 hours ago

        I was actually people shaming for not seeing the obvious. the photo has been changed to something not fake so can’t comment on the hand thing anymore