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    2 months ago

    Apparently putting a huge number of people in jail for minor possession of a drug that is only illegal because of racist 70s politics is spotless, and doing so to support capitalizing the prison system, is spotless. I call it dehumanizing and unconstitutional, but I just care about empirical data that apparently is completely unimportant in tribalist capitalist worshiping countries like the USA.

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      Countless was a little under 2000 people (at least as far as Harris is concerned) That’s about half of what her predecessor in the same office did over roughly the same time period.

      Now, that conviction is for “possession, sale, or cultivation”. Most paid a fine rather than serve jail time. We also don’t know the exact breakdown of possession vs sale vs cultivation.

      We also know that Harris pushed for decriminalization and legalization in California, and has pushed some of the same as vice president. I think Joe is the roadblock there, even if he was convinced to pardon a bunch of people for simple possession.

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      I don’t count “spotless prosecutorial record” as a win, but given the two viable choices I’ll take it over “shockingly successful fascist demagogue” every time, and twice on Sundays.

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        I holding my finger over the button as long as possible in the hope that the button that the “spotless prosecutorial record” will suddenly add the “stop abetting a genocide” portion we’ve been asking for since before they changed out the previous button, but I guess I’ll be going for the option that isn’t currently telling me how my existence is threatening to them and hope that they’ll follow through on valuing human life this time around.

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    A perfectly good meme but I would say it might still presume a little too much good faith.

    They’re not undecided. They want to vote for Trump and are desperately hoping for a socially acceptable reason to do so.

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    2 months ago

    She’s already said she will continue arming Israel, which is a felony at this point.

    Proudly proclaiming she will commit a felony day one is a good indication of how I expect the rest of her term to go.

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      My ballot had 3 options: Kamala Harris, Donald Trump and Robert Kennedy, Jr.

      Write-ins are not allowed in Indiana.

      Who should I have voted for?

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      What felony exactly? If that’s a felony, that would be great, because then we can finally hold gun manufacturers and owners who sell their firearms fully responsible.

      She’s not even president.

      Hey, never mind the fact though that Walz is feeding school kids, they’re getting tampons in bathrooms and plan to finally tax the rich more, help the poor and increase minimum wage

      Im sure people who are struggling to get dinner on their table are more concerned about foreign policy

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          The Leahy Laws or Leahy amendments are U.S. human rights laws that prohibit the U.S. Department of State and Department of Defense.

          So it’s actually applied against those 2 offices, not the executive branch.

          And again, she wants a ceasefire…

          You have no way of knowing what’s happening in the background, only what you read about in the news

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            It doesn’t matter what she says she wants. If she authorizes more weapons sales, she’s in violation of both international and domestic law.

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              Which law again?

              As mentioned, Leahy’s law isn’t executive branch it seems according to Wikipedia. So you need to take it up with you Pentagon…

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    I’m sure pretending the blue candidate isn’t complicit in genocide is a great strategy to convincing more voters.

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      Unfortunately we are in the same position with both candidates. You can’t be President of the US and have clean hands

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          I guess when both candidates have “Genocide Participant” credits it no longer matters to compared that specific item.

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              Disarming Israel is not on the ballot. I wish it were, but we are where we are. Comparing the candidates on issues where they do differ significantly makes the decision pretty easy.

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              What for? There are absolutely no real options to avoid the Israel/Palestine conflict. So as an adult who understands that there are some things I can and cannot influence I move on to those I can influence.

              One candidate is leagues above the other.

              Anyone who says “well your candidate will be bad for Israel/Palestine” is being disingenuous because both will suck. Thats bait and a distraction.

              Going 3rd party or abstaining from voting are both stupid approaches.

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      Pretending the red candidate isn’t a secret selling multi-count rapist Nazi has been working out just fine.

      Tell me again, what are Jane Steins accomplishments?

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    My Mexican immigrant coworker believes that if Kamala gets elected that immigrants will be deported but also immigrants are getting too much free money and food stamps and things like that. He really has bought into some kind of weird belief that Donald Trump is a better candidate. He can’t vote because he’s not a citizen. I think he’s just pissed off because he works two jobs and sees people who get free stuff and don’t come here legally as lazy.

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      Trying to combine immigrants in your first sentence is so disingenuous. Here’s what makes it clear:

      Legal Immigrants are different than illegal immigrants. Of course your coworker is pissed off that he’s come here legally and is not getting rewarded for it. Whether the ones who come illegally are lazy or not doesn’t make a difference. They shouldn’t be given anything we currently give them. We have veterans dying in the streets getting nothing. Everyone should be mad about it.

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        What you’re saying is not precisely true. To register for food stamps, well, you need to be registered. Likewise for other forms of welfare.

        Illegal immigrants are not coming to this country and living off of welfare. That is not happening.

        But even if it was, are you seriously going to tell me that the solution to that is to kick those immigrants out? To round them up in camps? That’s not going to help homeless veterans.

        People like you will either believe in stupid arguments or talk in bad faith, and then not actually support welfare or UBI at all.

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          Illegal immigrants aren’t getting money and services through our usual welfare program, but nice try implying that’s what we’re claiming.

          And yes, kick out the ones here illegally. Not sure where you’re getting camps from, just move them out. Then we need to redirect sources to Americans that need it and we need to make sure those are being spent properly and not disappearing into bureaucratic pockets.

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    He’s not a Nazi; he’s a fascist. Nazi refers to a specific political party. Fascist is more general.

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      The main difference, as I understand, is that national socialism is inherently racist and puts the (Aryan) race on top of the ideology, everything else must submit to the benefit of the (Aryan) race, whereas fascism puts the benefit of the state on top.

      https://historyplex.com/difference-between-fascism-nazism

      Trump, as far as I can judge from beyond the pond, is still claiming to put the state, or the United States of America, first, like a fascist would do. His hate speech against immigrants still serves the narrative of them being bad for the US, not of them being disadvantageous towards the benefit of the Aryan race.

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        Oh, I’m not saying he’s any better than a Nazi. Just being pedantic.

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      2 months ago

      I have a friend who voted for Trump and now he is undecided. Now he is saying he isn’t voting for anyone. I guess that’s better than voting for Trump. He lives in AZ. So that is sorta a win.

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      Don’t know why you’re being downvoted, Harris isn’t perfect but with Trump on the other side not much is required of her to be the best option.

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        Harris is far worse than Trump. Her record includes extending peoples prison sentences for cheap labor to fight fires. Jailing parents of truant kids. Laughing about smoking weed herself after imprisoning people for it. Most of the people she kept behind bars are black.

        You know what trump did? He gave permanent funding to HBC colleges. His First Step act reversed Biden’s Crime Bill that targeted black people. He also created a way for criminals to rejoin society after they finish their sentencing.

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          Amazingly you left out his rape convictions, his 34 felonies, his very public desire to have those that disagree with him assassinated, his admiration of Hitler, his racist rhetoric, his disrespect for our armed forces, his senility, and the thousand other batshit-insane things he’s done and promises yet to do.

          If you want to discuss this- be fair and include ALL of who he is.

          If you cannot do that, then you are admittedly here in bad faith.

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          To anyone that may be reading along and found this in the comments:

          The comment I am responding to above illustrates how easy it is to cherry pick what makes one look bad, and the other look good, but it only works when one foregoes all evidence and empirically proven facts in favor of rhetoric and agenda.

          Keep this in mind.

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            I didn’t cherry pick, I came up with major good things trump did and major bad things Kamala did. I can’t think of one good thing Kamala has done, her record is atrocious, and I responded to each claim the previous commenter made. Just took me a few days, since I have a life.

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              ROFL!

              I didn’t cherry pick

              and the immediately after….

              I came up with major good things trump did and major bad things Kamala did.

              I honestly have no words…

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                I mean, I followed up with I dont know anything good she’s done. She hasn’t done anything good. Id definitely list good things she did if there were any. There just aren’t any.

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                  I honestly don’t think I can take part in this discussion any more. I don’t think it’s right to discuss the concept of cherry-picking with someone that adamantly denies they’re doing it-

                  then proceeds to perfectly illustrate the accusation.

                  I don’t think you understand what it is you’re saying and I think it’s unfair to continue having the advantage that I possess in this discussion.

                  Have a good day.

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            I mean, these are proven things he did. You can laugh but it doesn’t change the fact that these things happened

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              350,831 Covid deaths in 2020 alone, 40% preventable with a competent response. Nominating 3 SCOTUS judges that ensured Roe being repealed and stripping away women’s bodily automomy in 21 states. But sure, Harris is an evil c***, right? I could go on with how horrible he was but of course, you won’t care. Cruelty is the point.

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          Trump separated children from parents and locked them in cages. The majority of these children still haven’t been returned to their parents.
          He tried to illegally ban entire races from entering the country.
          He elected judges to the supreme Court that over turned Roe v Wade, which is resulting in the death of pregnant women who can no longer receive life saving medical care.
          He made Secret Service Agents rent rooms at hotels he owns, funneling money from the government into his own businesses.

          Trump refused the peaceful transfer of power
          Lied that the election was stolen (and has never presented any evidence and his lawyers admitted in court that they have no evidence)
          Encouraged an attempted insurrection
          Idolizes dictators
          Stated he wants to be a dictator Day 1
          Wants people who oppose him to get shot…

          Oh, but some colleges got some funding so I guess that balances it out.

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              Trump ripped families apart. The fact that you deny that any pretend to be a left speaks volumes. That was NOT a policy with ANY precedent

              If you believe that, you’re either too young to remember what happened under Trump or you’re being disingenuous

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              Amazing, every single thing you said… Is wrong.

              You are either willfully ignorant or maliciously spreading misinformation.

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      Is it a spot if you grab someone who isn’t your favorite wife by the pussy?

      How do you grab your own wife by the pussy? Like do you just go for it over whatever she’s wearing? Do you pull down her panties to actually grab her by the vagina?

      What’s the proper vagina grab? Like do you apply pressure upwards and pull …nah that would slip easy! It’s a vagina, it’s got slime on it if you get near it. Nah. I think the best and most proper way is to insert one or more fingers into the vagina so you can pull.

      I hope our president can tell us how to properly and legally grab women by the vagina. Maybe it will be a national sport one day… imagine a team of say 6 couples on each side, the get arranged like in football, except that they must be copulating. The goal is to walk around the field…full of couches and rugs and Lego bricks from the kids … And grab one of the opposite team’s women by the pussy. Each couple who’s woman gets grabbed by the pussy is automatically disqualified and has to exit the field. Extra points during sudden death if you can doggy or spit roast the guy.

      Thank God Trump figured out how to grab them all by the pussy for us all. Right? 👍

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    I might not leave the country, but I’ll have to leave my state. I wonder if next Friday after work I’ll need to load up everything I can fit in my car and drive as far north as possible. It’s terrifying that my rights as a transgender human vanish will vanish overnight where I live. I’ve heard of bounties in Odessa.

    Knowing that most of the people I live and work around are happily voting for a child rapist has broken my brain. The folks protesting at the Planned Parenthood (abortion is already illegal here) are going to vote for a man that’s probably paid for multiple abortions. It’s a sickness I can’t fathom.

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      Its sickening what is happening to this country, that you even feel the need to flee in such a way, but it is a realistic concern. There are people who very much want carte blanche to harm trans people, and if Trump is elected they may get that cover, its vile.

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    Is there a person alive on this planet now with a so called “spotless” record? OP, are you of all the major decisions Kamala has made and you agree with them?

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      Already voted for Harris. Your argument is invalid.

      Go cry about it.

      In fact, I might just go vote again!