Summary
Kamala Harris’s political skills have transformed a potentially disastrous 2024 presidential election into a competitive race.
Despite initial skepticism and a challenging campaign, Harris has improved her public image and closed the gap with Trump on key issues. Since Biden stepped aside in July and endorsed her, she has shifted from an unpopular vice president to a viable candidate, even matching Trump in polls on economic issues.
Her leadership has given Democrats a chance to prevent a Trump landslide and halt the rise of American authoritarianism.
I’d argue the opposite.
The fact that Americans are possibly still voting for someone who will bring in the Fourth Reich if elected, over the first female president is a sign of just how badly Democrats have dropped the ball. ESPECIALLY after Jan 6th.
I think both can be true. That she cleaned up the situation is a testament to her skill as a candidate, and the fact this situation happened is in no small part an indictment of the Democratic party, in which she’s among its most senior leaders
Lol what a spin.
I wouldn’t say that at all. It’s a testament to how terrible a candidate Trump is.
The fact that the election is a toss up shows to me just how dumb America is.
The choice is an average politician or an orange wannabe fascist … and a good percentage of the country can’t decide? Or they choose the fascist?
The fact that it is even a close race just displays in big giant signs just generally how stupid the country has become.
I normally don’t like being that blunt or unkind but these people are literally holding the future of the world in their hands and they have no freaking clue what they are doing.
I’m not American and it is completely frustrating to sit outside as we watch a bunch of idiots being indecisive about either choosing normalcy or insanity. It’s such a hard question for America that they need to have a never ending debate about it.
The problem is those of us who want a better life for all. For people to be able to live and not just exist, who strive for kindness. Our problem is always that we are too willing to turn our collective cheek. We are too willing to be kind for too long, be too tolerant, too understanding. Meanwhile, the angry and intolerable, and the malicious and evil, stand high atop shaky foundations yelling loudly serious threats.
This election cycle is a representation of where our own anger has gone. I just fear it has come too late.
Being susceptible to fascism isn’t exactly an American invention. It’s a failure of liberalism that leads to this, as democracy is eroded by capitalists.
It’s sad how uninformed people have become. They get their news from Facebook or TV. Literally zero research done so everything they base their vote on is anecdotal or just assumptions based on their own life experiences.
We need to do better about getting information to the people. The government shouldn’t have to jumó through hoops to educate the public on basic shit
how dumb America is.
Not to mention how dumb the UK, France, Italy, Austria, the Netherlands, Hungary, Finland, Croatia, and the Czech Republic are…
By the way, what country do you live in?
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need to have a never ending debate about it.
It’s not a debate at this point. The Trump supporters stopped living in reality a long time ago. I’m still friends with a couple on FB, and the shit they post is complete lunacy. They won’t look at anything that comes from NBC, ABC, or even CBS. Fox is hit and miss…if it’s remotely critical of anything conservative it’s an MSM conspiracy.
The Russian / Chinese social ops did their job to perfection. These people only watch X, Newsmax, Britbart, and OANN these days.
They’re regular people outside of the internet, but they’ve walled themselves off from anything that might put a dent in their world view.
Imagine how bad it feels to have those idiots as neighbors. I moved to this neighborhood around two years ago and I was really happy that there were no visible trump flags/signs around. It’s nice that everyone can keep their politics to themselves. In the last year, somehow that changed and there were a few signs put up here and there, but in the last month, they’ve multiplied and now they’re on multiple houses on every block. I don’t understand how anyone can see what’s going on and still feel compelled to go get a sign and put it up…unless they’re just trying to put up the scariest Halloween decorations. Now the nice neighborhood I moved to two years ago looks like election headquarters for someone who tried to overthrow the government four years ago.
I mean if she really wanted to guarantee victory all she had to do was to stop sending weapons to Israel. Great job by her to keep the genocide and her chances of election going.
Guarantee a Trump victory, that is.
I agree it’s horrible that Israel has killed hundreds of Palestinians for every person killed in the Hamas attack, and Harris needs to find a way to rein in Netanyahu if she becomes President. And that may be by withholding all weapons. But if and when Trump takes power, he’s going to help his buddy Bibi nuke Gaza into a wasteland as a Final Solution to the Palestinian problem. Harris needs every last vote, even from those who support Zionism, but have other reasons for voting against Trump.
People: “We don’t want old!” Biden: “I still got this!” Debate. “Maybe I don’t.” Harris: “I’m not old!” People: “Good enough!”
Wtf? So definitely nothing to do with the fact that her opponent is a rapist felon?
are you kidding me. how is someone like trump even able to get nominated much less win a general. satan I miss last millenium.
You could start by reading the article and actually responding to their arguments, as they explicitly address what you are stating here right at the beginning.
It’s not a testament to her abilities, it’s a depressing statement about the state of America that a convicted felon, rapist, fascist loudman can be neck and neck with probably one of the smartest, most highly accomplished presidential candidates we’ve had in quite a while
I blame stupid voters AND Republicans trying to pull of a coup through voter suppression.
Up next, endless court cases in an attempt to get SCOTUS to hand over the election to Trump.
I blame Fox News the most for decades of right wing propaganda.
Rush Limbaugh too
And Newt Gingrich
Rupert Murdoch and the cabal
I blame years of powerful people trying to ensure that people are not educated and are fed a diet of misinformation with a consistent narrative.
That is part of Republican voter suppression.
It’s a symbol about how far Republicans have truly fallen. Even George W. Bush could’ve and might’ve admitted defeat if he had lost the 2004 run. John McCain, respectfully has given Obama appraisal for winning over him in 2008. Mitt Romney was respectful too.
But 2020 with Trump? Throws the biggest fucking tantrum ever in the history of all elections and this country alone. By attempting a coup and an insurrection because he refused to admit that he lost.
Yep, the truth is it shouldn’t even be this close, but Kamala has moved significantly right in the last four years.
The Dem party doesn’t try to get landslide victories, they want to give voters the absolute minimum they need to win. It’s the only explanation for why they keep moving right after Obama’s 08 landslide
Yep, the truth is it shouldn’t even be this close, but Kamala has moved significantly right in the last four years.
Actually, that’s probably why she’s winning. Because of the nature and makeup of the Electoral College, we can consider the Presidential election biased in favor of the GOP candidate.
It’s the only explanation for why they keep moving right after Obama’s 08 landslide
I’ve explained this in detail before, so rather than reposting, I’ll just point folks over to this, https://lemmy.world/comment/12409521
The Dem party doesn’t try to get landslide victories, they want to give voters the absolute minimum they need to win.
Well, I’m sure they would if they could. But see above - it’s not possible with the current structure. I’m still hopeful that we can get Harris elected, and then have a chance of getting the 127 DC states plan to pass - https://www.vox.com/2020/1/14/21063591/modest-proposal-to-save-american-democracy-pack-the-union-harvard-law-review
Which would allow Dems to pass the required constitutional amendments to address the systemic problems with the current, erm, system.
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It’s also a depressing statement about the state of the Democratic Party, as it is more interested in being just a hair to the left of Reagan rather than offer up major truly progressive policies that would cost the Wall-Street class anything significant… and it thinks that’s sufficient to boost enthusiasm for the candidate.
This is fucking insane and is literally how we get the ratchet effect that further emboldens autocrats, fascists, demagogues, etc.
People can’t fucking afford rent or housing, their jobs aren’t paying enough to cover the basics. Healthcare is completely broken save for the absolute baseline of “covering pre-existing conditions.” College is essentially a dice roll for whether or not you’ll land a job that doesn’t pay enough to pay back your loans, or just be added to the pile of qualified candidates who will never make it past the “A.I.” resume-scanning bot.
Billionaires are literally announcing their federal law-breaking plans to pay people to vote for the fascist who OPENLY talks of using the military on his political enemies… and the big policy proposals making headlines are “$50K loans for 1st time small business owners wanting to start a company?!” Are we fucking serious right now?
Harris is NOT a good candidate. She’s better than Clinton (partially due to the unfair “demonization” of Hill-dawg for decades… but also because the Clintons are narcissistic neoliberal idiots) AND better than the incoherent jello-brained 150-year old pile of sentient bones who insists we keep green-lighting shipping weapons to the guy who wants to glass countless innocents in the name of “killing terrorists”… but someone like Sanders or AOC or Warren or even just Walz himself would be wiping the floor with Trump… because they would be addressing the concerns that gave the demagogues something to scapegoat for to begin with.
[…] cost the Wall-Street class anything significant…
And herein is your problem. The Wall-Street class is the most influential voting bloc in America. If you don’t bow to them, you don’t even make it onto the ballot, let alone into the oval office. The only way it is possible to get around this, in modern America, would be if you acted like you were going to play ball with Wall Street up until you’re sworn into office, and then pull the most epic bait and switch of all time on them.
To be clear, I don’t expect this from Harris. But if she were going to do it, exactly what she’s doing now would be the way you accomplish that. Let the megadonors believe that you’re on their side until you reach a point where they can’t stop you.
I am all but praying that Harris is pulling a bait and switch on Wall Street. It’s the only way I see fascism being actually stopped, instead of merely delayed or slowed by 4-8 years.
The fact that it’s close is a testament to the idiocy and racism of the American public.
That and just a dash of sexism.
TBH when her candidacy first was announced I was completely convinced that Trump had already won… A woman, AND black?
Voting is a two way street.
You can’t put all the blame on voters and none on the campaign. One of those groups gets paid millions and millions of dollars to get a D president.
When we ran a young charismatic candidate with a progressive campaign in 08, it was easy to get voters on board and red states became blue, it even carried over to flipping state governments
When we ran a young charismatic candidate with a progressive campaign in 08, it was easy to get voters on board and red states became blue, it even carried over to flipping state governments
See https://lemmy.world/comment/12409521 - but the TLDR is that 2008 isn’t comparable, since a major gerrymandering effort by the GOP took place in 2010 that took Dems by surprise - and this gerrymandering made the above virtually impossible to repeat (by design, I might add).
If we had a moderately sane Republican running, I’d agree with you.
But anyone who looks at Trump and thinks “Yep, that guy should have the nuclear football” is a fucking moron and I’m terrified that they’re allowed to operate motor vehicles.
But you can still make the argument the DNC seeing trump and using that as an excuse to run candidates more conservative than Dem voters are is also a dangerous thing…
That’s what I’m saying, you can blame 10s of millions of voters, or the handful of people at the DNC who get paid millions to get a Dem elected.
Both should do the right thing, and I get criticizing both. I even get criticizing the handful of wealthy unelected people running the DNC as the priority.
But I’ll never understand why so many people demand only voters compromise and insist the handful of unelected wealthy, powerful, and connected people running the DNC are above reproach
If the Republicans were running a sane choice, then Democrats holding to their ideals would be key. Voters would have an actual choice and candidates would need to better distinguish themselves
However we have a scenario where the Republicans candidate is not a sane choice for the future of our democracy, our country, our future, and are in some sort of bizarro world where half the population is fine with that. A bizarro world where saying the quiet part out loud is “telling it like it is”, where blatant corruption and fascism is somehow not just tolerated but even celebrated. Where it’s ok to be racist, sexist, and scapegoating is the strategy of the day
While I’m happy to be voting FOR Harris, it’s critical in so many ways to vote AGAINST Trump, his excesses, his corruption, his abuse of power, his signature for sale, his lackey for Putin, his willingness to sacrifice our future for more money today, his narcissism at the expense of the citizens a President is meant to serve
I don’t blame Democratic voters. I blame every voter. This should be a no brainer. Trump should be polling in the single digits.
Americans are fucking stupid. The ones who vote are stupid. The ones who run the parties are stupid. The ones who don’t vote are stupid.
I keep trying to hitch a ride off this bug infested mudball but even the aliens know to avoid it.
And in 08 a young charismatic candidate with a progressive platform got them to vote for him even in red states
The voters will vote if given a better option.
Well, this is a hurdle though: https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2016/07/19/gerrymandering-republicans-redmap
Bill Clinton, who won in 1992, was from the midwestern state of Arkansas. I think this trend started long before, and has to do with the center of the US shifting differently from some of the more populated areas of the US.
Anti-Intellectualism, Anti-Abortion, The Ignorant .etc
Those also play roles.
Like I said: Idiocy
Or is a testament to how effective rich authoritarians have been at keeping much of the public uneducated and or fed misinformation.
How on earth is Harris being tied with the worst presidential candidate in history spun as a good thing?
Yeah, how many of those votes are pro-Harris and how many are anti-Trump?
The fact that the election is a toss-up, rather than a Harris landslide, is proof that American democracy is already fully collapsed.
I am not dismissing Kamala Harris here but the Democrats could have pitted a cold cut sandwich against Trump and the race would be just as tight. This is a race between fascism and not.
well that’s not true, Biden was definitely going to lose.
I’ve seen some people argue that had Biden stayed in, we would be seeing the same numbers. Not sure if I agree with that. But it’s an interesting thought.
My guess is he’d be doing worse, that the advantage of being a white male wouldn’t be enough to overcome how his age is affecting him.
Trump would be a disaster, but these last-minute hopeful headlines just smack of desperation. I just saw another one saying Harris had “suddenly jumped into the lead” because one model put here at 50.015% of the vote. It’s nothing to be thrilled about, especially with the Republicans set to employ every underhanded tactic they can to steal the victory. In any normal country there would be no competition between these two, but this is the USA.
The enduring fact is that our election cycles don’t have to last years. She did this in a little over 100 days.
The Primary system is fucking broken. It only exists to make some states “Princess for a Day” and guarantee some advertising dollars. It is only so long because some states want a week to themselves, or want to be “first in the nation” or some other bullshit like that. And the parties do whatever they can to tip the scales all the time.
If I were in charge, I would change it like this:
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All primary elections for President must occur within a four week span in May or June.
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12 or 13 states go in each week. The order will vary from election to election, so the same bucket of states only goes first once in 4 elections.
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there must be at least three candidates for any primary to happen. Less than 3 candidates = no primary.
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parties are free to ignore these rules, but then they should settle their candidate by some other method than a state-wide primary that taxpayers pay for.
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