• ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    Oh, I assumed you thought people were spending a lot of time entering timestamps. Do you think this is a particularly onerous process for them, or that the parents need to like, acknowledge each log? They just push a button to select the kid and tap another to select the event. Maybe type a description if it’s an incident report. It’s significantly easier for them than logging it any other way, and it ensures parents get the information on food, diapers and whatnot.

    I am confused how you see this as care by flowchart. Daycare staff aren’t medical professionals. They aren’t qualified to make objective decisions about what’s an “important” event to notify parents of in a consistent manner. What country are you in where the parental notification laws are “I dunno, if you feel like it I guess”?

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      2 days ago

      What country are you in where the parental notification laws are “I dunno, if you feel like it I guess”?

      Belgium. There’s no laws whatsoever that mandate notifications. They’ll just tell you if something important happens

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        15 hours ago

        Well that seems quite odd. Most developed countries have standards for childcare settings, including defining minimums for activity and incident logging.
        Finding regulations was difficult, but it seems that Belgium just has lower quality childcare than even the US, according to the UN. https://www.unicef.org/innocenti/reports/where-do-rich-countries-stand-childcare

        Color me surprised. I kind of assumed if we had standards that anyone else would have similar or better standards.

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          11 hours ago

          The only thing such laws do is make the care taker more of a replaceable robot, imo. In either case, you want someone that cares, and doesn’t see a kid as a long to do list within an app.

          No amount of laws can force someone to care. The reverse is often true, in my opinion. “Teach for the test” style.

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            8 hours ago

            Yeah, standards for care isn’t “teaching for the test”. You don’t overfocus on “don’t change diapers in the food prep area” or “tell the parents if you use the first aid kit” and somehow end up neglecting care.
            I take my kids to a legal daycare. That means I know people who work there and are nearby have been certified in pediatric CPR and first aid within the past year. That they do fire drills. That they have a policy for when sick kids need to go home and when they can come back.

            It’s not about a law forcing people to care, it’s about establishing a baseline. If a caregiver I haven’t met swaps in for one I know I don’t have to learn their standards on the spot.

            It’s odd to be opposed to standards.