• Sterile_Technique@lemmy.worldM
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    Elon Musk predicted that AI and robots would eventually allow work to become optional for human beings, that money would become “irrelevant” and poverty would cease to exist.

    I mean first off, we’ll need “AI” to actually mean something other than marketing bullshit. Actual AI (what’s being called ‘AGI’ nowadays, but that’ll be bastardized the same way ‘AI’ was) doesn’t exist outside of science fiction. If that day ever comes (my money’s on humans being extinct before we get there), then yeah that’s gonna be a humanity changer in par with discovering fire or electricity.

    Second, we’ll need the folks who run that tech to actually be benevolent, and the odds of a billionaire becoming benevolent are even lower than real AI becoming a reality.

    Third, poverty could cease to exist RIGHT NOW if people like Elon Musk got the guillotine treatment they deserve. No AI necessary.

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      Third, poverty could cease to exist RIGHT NOW if people like Elon Musk got the guillotine treatment they deserve

      Never forget that elmo ran his mouth about using his money to solve world hunger, and when the UN organization in charge of hunger came back with a detailed plan… nothing. Poof. The little shit tucked tail and ran.

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        Oh no we’re never forgetting that, or the fact that shortly after he used even MORE money than what the UN proposed to buy Twitter instead

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    The only X this guy deserves is pressing X to doubt. Im sure this will happen some day if we all dont go extinct, but if he is involved it wont be as he says here.

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    17 hours ago

    I hate the loser as much as the next guy, but post scarcity built on automation and androids isn’t a bad thing just because he mentions it.

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      It absolutely is a bad thing. There’s a version of “post scarcity” where everyone is provided for and cared for, and there’s the one these assholes are aiming for, where most are left to languish. His is unquestionably the latter.

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        Languish is a strong word, post scarcity heavily implies most of our desires being met, not a minimum to survive.

        It should still be the end goal in either case. Hopefully, we can have proper change before it to avoid some kind of techno feudalism.

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          My point is that what he’s aiming for isn’t what you’re imagining or describing. He doesn’t want comfort or care for others, he wants to have as much money and power as he can possible claw in, and others having something means he has less to hoard.

          In short, he’s lying and it’s important to understand that.

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            It’s also not what this image is saying either.

            Yes we know what Musk actually wants, but what’s being described in the image is quite nice

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              “The image about what the billionaire psycho is saying isn’t really about what the billionaire psycho is saying.”

              That’s not how this works.

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                Musk: “Don’t kill puppies”

                You: I’m going to kill so many fucking puppies

                This is where we are at right now. Yes we do know Musk is a bad guy, but even bad people can say good things.

                Having robots labor for us would be great, just because Musk said thay doesn’t make it evil. But because Musk said it we can infer he has some additional motives, but the statement itself is still a good thing

                Like we don’t have to be this unnecessarily absolute and obtuse about things.

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                  You: I’m going to kill so many fucking puppies

                  I already said that there’s an actual good version of post-scarcity, good try though. And letting wolves in sheep’s fur lead you into the slaughterhouse because they put up a sign that says “Utopia” is just going to doom you and everyone else.

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            Hopefully we can have change so we get what he predicts and not what he wants.

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    16 hours ago

    None of our billionaires are seeking a Star Trek, united federation of planets (countries) utopia, where money is obsolete.

    They’re all looking more towards the empire dystopia of Star Wars.

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    If done right and well, it most certainly could. But we aren’t doing either.

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      It’s the old tech shill’s shell game.

      “This is what we could have!” (Note: could have. Not what they’re working toward.)

      Television was once hailed as a boon for education. How long did that last?

      The Internet was once hailed as a means of learning about each other. Now it’s a source of ever-increasing vociferous division.

      All of this is purest fantasy because the people pitching it are shit humans who don’t want the future they sell to us.

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        What? Are you seriously gonna say that television and Internet weren’t a massive boon for society regarding education/knowledge sharing and social exchange? You’ve such a negative outlook on life if you honestly believe that.

        I remember when people would tell you things and you just had to say OK cause your only refute was to hop on over to the library and find a book as a source.

        And pre-Internet, when would you ever communicate with someone outside of your little town? Sure sign up for a penpal or some shit like that, but the ability for me where I am on the shitter to write this comment to you is INSANE in the broad spectrum of the human race.

        Stop being such a doomer

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        In the heart of the empire, same as it ever was. I mbin “boosted” your comment, because it’s the same old pipe dream they’ve always sold us that we keep buying, with just enough “good” hits to keep us coming back, as I elsewhere.

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    They have been selling us the promise of leisurely utopia since the industrial revolution. The only way we get shorter work weeks is by sacrificing capitalists