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  • Smoogs@lemmy.world
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    Ai conceptual art is still scraped from artists who physically made the art in the first place . Without humans building art by hand it wouldn’t have existed.

    I literally saw the word Disney plastered in a language learning ‘AI’ story on YouTube. It wasn’t even Disney related material. That’s how bad and lazy it is at scraping. It’s even scraping the logos from the creators it’s stealing from.

    It’s not AI. It hasn’t created anything. So we should stop calling it that.

    It’s just plaigerism. Just call it plaigerism. “I plaigerized a story. I plaigerized all the concepts for it” stop pretending you created a damned thing. You’re fooling nobody

    (Directed at the original post, not the OP who posted it here)

  • eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Cuban used AI to prepare to go on Pablo Torre’s podcast and made an ass out of himself, so I don’t trust his evaluation of AI’s capabilities.

  • CitizenKong@lemmy.world
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    But the AI also tells stories. So even if your story is great, it will be drowned in thousands of AI slop stories. Publishing houses can already not screen new novels anymore because they are getting flooded with hundreds of AI generated books every day (complete with AI generated, fake authors).

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    mark has a vested interest in the success of AI. anything he says is for the enrichment of his investments.

    don’t listen to mark, he’s a shill.

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    11 hours ago

    As an artist, I LOVE being told what i should like and not like by an out-of-touch never-been-cool rich asshole. Thanks, dickwad!

  • Jared White ✌️ [HWC]@humansare.social
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    This is in fact an insidious form of gatekeeping. It is shutting out people who are excited to learn new skills and become the next generation of creative people by collaborating with other talented humans, receiving apprenticeship, and being rewarded for their labor. Their opportunities and newfound capabilities are being thwarted by the slop machines, and it stinks.

    There is no gatekeeper like a Capitalist trying to convince you that Yet More Automation™ is good for everybody!

  • Baguette@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Ah yes I too love it when I get results with none of the actual creative process, because the end result is all that matters

    Signed a fellow human

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    With the amount of energy put into GenAI and the sheer bulk of content generated, why don’t advocates have at least one example of something artistically interesting, unique, or beautiful to showcase their claims? Has it yet made anything of cultural importance that will illicit more than a chuckle and a ‘like’?

    It seems to me I keep hearing non-artists assert that this will be a great thing for art, while real artists who disagree are labeled Luddites or not genuinely creative in some way. It’s frustrating to watch them openly say easily disprovable things. This isn’t speculative anymore these systems have been in production for years at this point. Let’s look at the actual results.

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      Can the people advocating for AI art provide any examples of anything human-generated that is artistically interesting? I suspect not and that’s a big part of why they’re impressed with AI art.

      Like, they’d probably say “The Mona Lisa” because it’s well known to be Great Art, and then their AI can draw them in the style of the Mona Lisa, ergo it has generated Great Art.

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        And resorting to The Mona Lisa just because it’s widely considered a masterpiece by everyone else shows how little they think about art and consider it themselves. If that’s your first and especially only example, you’ve already failed the test lol

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        I like this mini thread, yeah I agree. It seems like most AI advocates do not understand the difference between graphics and art.

        Computers make graphics, and art is the human experience (often) expressed through a visual medium.

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      I have a buddy that’s a professional singer/song writer & producer. He went out of town a few weeks ago to collaborate for a day or two with another producer. I don’t think he knew in advance but it turns out this other guy is pretty into AI music production. My friend (again: a professional artist and indie music producer) was really impressed with how useful it was. Sorry that this is an anonymous anecdote and not data but yeah some people have found ways to use AI to help them make art.

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    Artistic mastery isn’t gatekeeping, but I understand the sentiment. It’s nice to have the ability to do rapid prototyping, but I’m against AI being used in place of craftsmanship. “The art advances but the artisan recedes.”

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    I don’t need AI to replace my creativity and imagination. This is what someone writes when they only care about the end product, and not about the actual creative process.

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    To be fair, I have used AI to write the story for my Pathfinder campaign, but it usually goes something like this:

    • I prompt the AI to give me some ideas
    • AI spurts out some bullshit ideas
    • while (mentally) debunking the AI ideas I come up with some ideas that actually work

    So basically AI doesn’t provide anything useful but helps getting the idea process going. Maybe that’s some variation on Cunningham’s Law?