I’m gonna delete the account after selling my Quest 2 for the Steam Frame
People who bought this hardware are dumb fucks.
Even if rooted and used without account via PrivateQuest?
Setup a fake account. Use a friend’s bday you’ll remember. Its not hard. That’s like saying “people who use email are dumb fucks” since they also ask for bdays.
God forbid people enjoy some vr.
You think that’s all they collect? You bought one, didn’t you?
My kids got one. We don’t have FB accounts. I have pihole setup as my DNS, don’t have cable, use Firefox and ublock, ads mean fuck all to me. I ride the high seas, have been since Napster. I pay for what I like, avoid what I don’t.
I’m old enough that if there is something they don’t know about me, it’s not hard to find. People act like a company knowing their name and address is going to send them to a early grave or something.
You need to find your balance of security and convenience and learn to live your life.
Your…name and address? What century is this?
You keep asking questions and providing nothing. Put up or shut up.
You want my name and address? That seems kind of rude. Why?
In what way did I ask for that?
There really weren’t any comparable standalone alternatives at the time. I just wanted to play some Beatsaber back then.
Paraphrasing the guy who owns the company.
Not that he wasn’t entirely correct.
It’s hardware that can be used with SteamVR or load opensource VR apps directly onto it like DoomVR.
This is almost like someone complaining, “Facebook messenger is asking for my birthdate on the 120hz 1440p monitor that Facebook sold me for half price.” and you reply, “People who bought a PC monitor are dumb fucks.”
It is cheap 3d goggles that display what your PC sends it. Just like your monitor. You don’t have to use Meta’s software. You definitely don’t need to use Meta’s VR Chat app (That’s Horizon that the OP references.)_
Meta is selling VR at a loss like a console where they make up the loss with software game sales. But unlike a Switch/PS5, you don’t have to buy their games. So the real idiot is anyone who wants VR and doesn’t buy a Meta product. Buying a Quest and then using SteamVR causes Meta to lose money.
I’m paraphrasing the guy who owns it. A known and verified quote that was leaked years ago.
I’d ask how you don’t know this but it’s pretty clear you bought one.
I bought them for my kids. I didn’t buy it until you could use it without a Facebook account.
I recognized the quote. But as I explained it doesn’t apply because the dumb fucks are those that can’t see buying a loss leader hardware product and then not using it the way they planned hurts Facebook.
Tankies give the order of Lenin. I say rationalization should get the order of… Gladwell or iglacias? One of those guys.
I understand there’s arguments about “this is not new, they’ve been working on VR for a decade” - fine, but it’s Zuckerberg, who apparently never does anything in good faith (see: the Winklevoss twins, Whatsapp, Snapchat, Libra, etc)
I’m sure they only have VR in order to onboard people to blue app. People have gotten banned and their only recourse is to buy an Oculus. Convenient.
Wasn’t that the obvious deal from the beginning? You buy the subsidized hardware and ignore Facebook’s gravity as long as you can. That’s the catch for the low price.
Anyone who thought otherwise is, well, thinking wishfully.
Big tech in general. At this point the only one I still have faith in not too fuck over customers “because they can” is Valve.
My birthday is always January 1st of 2000. It used to be in 20th century but I didn’t want to give away my real age.
It used to be in 20th century but I didn’t want to give away my real age.
I take it you’re turning 125 next Thursday?
I’m guessing their real birthday is probably January 1, 1970; just like every Steam user.
Source if my guess: I was born on January 1 of 1970.
on that note I finally deleted facebook. Goodbye meta!
Better late than never!
I’ll sell them my birth date information. They already got their filthy lucre from buying and selling my name all over the place, why shouldn’t I get a cut from things I own?
This is why tech giants want to dissolve governments and the regulatory agencies.
This is why tech ceos need to be afraid to leave their bunkers.
I’ve had an account under a nickname for coordinating dog meetups for ages. One day the account was suddenly blocked without prior notice and the only way they would let me in again is by giving them my ID, which would not help as the account was under my nick and I would never give them my ID anyway. They didn’t even let me delete that effing zombie account without identifying my name as real or even just change the Nick to something FB recognises as real name.
They’ll ghost you even if you do give them everything they ask for. I can’t even make a new account under my real name or anything close to it anymore.
It sucks it’s the only realistic platform for discovering and getting info from interest groups in my area.
the only realistic platform
you know of, I don’t know where you live (nor do I want to) but alternatives do exist and if not you can self host some.
Ah shit you’re right! They’re going to love having their social media on stevesbasement.social. So accessible to the general public!
A good opportunity to ditch Meta if you’re still using it for some reason.
Can’t, need the Marketplace, unfortunately.
MySpace marketplace?
I just set mine to the beginning of time: Jan 01, 1970.
Here lies dreadbeef 1970-01-01 - 2038-01-19 01010010 01001001 01010000peperony and chease
December 7, 1941.
How to tell the techs you’re lying without telling the client
…so far, it seems like all the platforms accept january 1st 1900 without issue…
1 jan 1970
…too plausible to make the statement unambiguous…
I do 1/1/1984 but also a good idea
I can’t even access any Fakebook crap, because I have blocked any Zuckerbot service since a long time. It don’t exist anymore for me in the web.
What’s this extension?
Desktop app Portmaster
I backed the original Oculus Rift, and felt massively betrayed when they sold to Meta. :(
For years since I’ve been waiting for A VR solution that plays nice with Linux and is at least somewhat privacy-respecting, and I have been absolutely unwilling to buy a Quest device or anything else. I want to play VR but I’m not willing to sell my soul for it. So it’s been an unhappy but conscious boycott from me.
I too then am super looking forward to the Steam Frame because it’s the device I need to get back into VR and feel happy and excited about it, rather than disgusted.
This has been such a depressing trend over the last few decades.
Fresh bright-eyed startup with a passionate creator develops some interesting and innovative product.
Gets bought out by FAANG, turns to shit and stops working properly or gets discontinued, and primarily functions as a spyware device.
That’s just the inevitable endgame in a capitalistic society. Most startups’ end goals at inception are to sell out to a corporation.
Most people’s goals are to not have to work for a living. Selling a successful startup allows for that to happen. Unfortunately, the startup needs to start making money after someone pays a lot of money for it, and we all know what happens next.
Fortunately, GabeN shows no interest in selling Valve to anyone.
Yeah they’re largely an anomaly in that regard.
I think the cure is identifying that it’s all bullshit every time (especially nowadays!) and so not putting any hope in their tech any more. See it for what it is, just another corporate distraction among infinity of such.
I guess this is how I arrived at calling myself an “anti-technology technologist”, because new technology is so reliably the promise that never delivers, an exercise in frustration, disappointment and being ripped-off for shit I don’t even need. Of course I still enjoy tech things but I’m so fuckin over any “next big thing” because it’s invariably such hype, and I’m middle aged and so wasn’t born yesterday like I used to be.
I’d rather be staring at the hills and the river, VR got nothing compared to magic mushrooms anyway so I just don’t care for it. Gimme a joint, a musical instrument and a couple of friends over that, any day! I don’t want to inhabit virtual (or any) corporate spaces even for money, it has nothing at all that I want, and very many things I don’t want.
All encounters with corporations are designed to sap our life-force and pump up their stock prices. Best to limit exposure!
Is also dangerous to associate emerging technology with big tech, sure they make some and sell some at tempting discounted prices BUT they are not the only ones and when aiming so you leave then an open field.
I think the cure is identifying that it’s all bullshit every time
I mean that’s great but it doesn’t stop everyone else from falling for it, and you having to pay the price accordingly.
I guess this is how I arrived at calling myself an “anti-technology technologist”
I just call myself a Luddite at this point. Any technology developed outside of FOSS just completely disinterests me. Everything else is assumed to be malware.
I got into cycling a few years’ back. But of course technology is coming for bicycles too and all my riding buddies are just so amped about it and can’t understand why I want absolutely nothing to do with it.
technology is coming for bicycles too
Went from e-bike to fixie and ironically enough this isn’t a joke. I’m happier and healthier now.
That makes it sound like these startups have no choice in the matter. The funny thing is, you don’t have to sell your company to an enormous evil corporation if you don’t want to.
Depends on who your initial investors are and the contract you signed with them. They can and will force a sale if their RoI isn’t met in a specific time-frame, or if the buyout price reaches a certain valuation.
Partly true but Amazon has been known to make dupes of a product and sell it at a loss to drive the competitor out of business. I’m sure that threat lingers in some peoples’ minds.
They probably also promise the management team “you’ll still have creative control after we buy you”. Then turn around and replace each of them one by one
Yeah, I worked for an amazing company for 13 years, a big corporation bought it, and now I have my own business and my soul back. Same shit, “you’ll still have full operating control” and then they moved everything to India.
In capitalism you do. Society demands it.
No, not really. But if you don’t sell you don’t get a lot of money and mostly that’s what people want, that’s why the startup exists.
Palmer Lucky turning into a Bond villain wasn’t exactly something I expected when I first saw him pushing the original Kickstarter Oculus
Same, still got the devkit 1 and 2 in my cellar.
Really looking forward to the Steam Frame to finally get standalone VR without Meta involvement.
Have they sent out Dev kits yet? I know a game dev who is making a VR game on steam and he’s had nothing but radio silence from valve.
Haven’t heard anything yet.
Steam creator is also a Linux fan boy btw
Delete your facebook accounts
4-20-1969
1969-04-20
I see ISO 8601, I upvote. Simple as.
Nice.
Ha ha very nice 😏
20-04-1969
24-7-69
I’ve seen that date mentioned before. What is the reference?
Idk, just seemed funny 😅
Oh, I see now. 69. 24/7.
I swear once at 2nd grade I saw a doctor write a date like this and then did it only to get a long scolding by my teacher.
ante diem xx Kalendas Maias de anno MMDCCXXII ab urbe condita
Where’d you get the XX from? I believe that, counting inclusively, it should be 12 days from Apr 20th to Mai 1st, so a.d. xii Kal. Maias
you are correct. I did it for the gag, really, so most people could parse it.
The downvote?
Shitty formatting YYYYMMDD sorts chronologically and alphabetically
And with minor formatting is the actual ISO standard.
It’s infuriating, really.
Add 1 Jan 1970.
I just pick random shit. Pretty sure Steam thinks I’m 113 years old.
Admittedly this did backfire once when a company wanted my birthday to verify my ID to unlock an account. They were surprised I lied and I was surprised people don’t.
Unix/Epoch time👌
At least be exact! 1970-01-01T00:00:00.000Z.
Or if they allow it, just 0
