Cattle ranchers are making less money in the US despite beef prices at an all-time high. In the meantime, Trump started importing beef from Argentina to lower beef prices, but only achieved to lower cattle prices.

Trump supporting cattle ranchers weren’t happy

  • Whats_your_reasoning@lemmy.world
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    The cult mentality is on full display whenever these folks talk about being hurt by Trump but still supporting him.

    Yet add in the blue wave from the recent election, and I can’t help but wonder how much of it is bullshit said to save face, or in an attempt not to ostracize the impacted people’s stance in their local communities. In red bubbles, it’s dangerous to publically go against Dear Leader. To say so in a news article would probably cross a line. I wouldn’t be surprised if a lot of these farmers are secretly feeling disillusioned by Trump, but feel pressured to tell people that they still like him. Like how a lot of the people, especially in the Baby Boomer generation (I noticed it a lot in my parents’ cohort, which is why I mention it) keep the label of “Christian” even though they stopped believing and don’t actively attend church services. My parents themselves won’t use the word “atheist,” but they live completely secular lives that their own parents wouldn’t recognize (if they were still around.) If they were asked, they’d say they’re Christian all the way. But in reality, it’s little more than a label that links them to their community.

    Trump worship is a cult, no doubt about it. Just as members in a traditional cult find themselves surrounded by believers and pressured to play along, I bet a fair number of questioning Trump cultists only hold back from leaving because their communities are entrenched in it. They need to say, “Yeah I still support him” not because they still feel it in their hearts, but because the backlash of just saying, “His choices hurt my livelihood” would come back to haunt them both socially and materially.

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    Good, cows are bad for the environment and beef is just a corpse you were trained since youth to enjoy.

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    We should be happy for them. They are getting what they voted for. Congratulations 🍾🎈🎊🎉

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    Cattle prices had reached record highs throughout 2025 after years of drought dried up grazing lands and forced producers to slash the nation’s herd to its smallest size in decades.

    Keep on voting for climate change deniers, I’m sure it will help.

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    Nebraska is a heavy red state, especially out west. those dipshits will vote red for the rest of their lives and nothing can change it. Those communities are brainwashed completely, and anyone that dare speak differently is harrased and riduculed into submission.

    They voted for racism, they deserve every bit of pain they receive. But it wont matter, becuase they will still vote red. The sate is just over run with willfully ignorant, hateful, “christians”.

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      those dipshits will vote red for the rest of their lives and nothing can change it

      People keep saying this (or things like it), even after we just watched the 2025 mid-terms where across the board districts flipped that went for Donald in 2024.

      I dunno, man. I think this is evidence that your ingrained prejudices might be wrong, but we’ll see.

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        I hope you are right. I would love to eat my words.

        All I can do is report what i see with my own 2 eyes. The racism runs deep here and often has no opposing viewpoints in the small ranch towns on the west side of the state.

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          I think it’s bad strategy that Donald has embraced the Biden/Harris playbook and just decided to outright ignore the affordability crisis.

          Red, Blue, doesn’t matter. I don’t think the cultist mentality of some will be enough to carry MAGA to victory in 2026 because you can’t propagandize around millions being unable to afford their rent and put food on the dinner table, as Biden/Harris learned in 2024. Back then, Donald was the candidate of change. This time around, he and the people he endorses will be the candidates of starvation.

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        In many of those cases though voter turnout was down. Alabama of all places had a progressive-ish democrat for a few years because his opponent was credibly accused of being a pedophile. Red voters didn’t carry Doug Jones to the finish line, the inaction of red voters did.

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          In many of those cases though voter turnout was down

          That’s arguably what lost Democrats the election in 2024, owing to their decision to ignore the affordability crisis. Now that Donald has embraced the Biden playbook on affordability and just decided to ignore it or attempt to propagandize around it, I think the 2026 election is going to be a bloodbath for MAGA.

          You can’t tell someone who does their own shopping, and finds every week that their $100 only buys them half as much, that the stock market being at all time highs means the economy is good.

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        most of americans are selfish voters, not racist voters…though obviously a large contingent are just…stupid racist motherfuckers that have their brain rotted by too much Murdoch (my dad being one of them), the latter only decides elections when normies can’t be bothered to show up.

        most arent racist though (not enough for it to influence their voting choices), most are just selfish… republicans promise the most ratfuckery, and are the most predictable in their backstabbing (being proud in their cruelty/stupidity). any business in a red state can just plan for maximum-pain, pay their bribes, and they’re probably golden for the next 4 years.

        democrats…they’re fucking shifty and too fucking smart. the bernies/AOC/mamdani’s are the exception not the rule. most US politicians in general are coastal (or local) elites that think their dick cures cancer or something (going off all the sexual harassment cases/connections to epstein)…they’re 100% going to abuse their position to fuck others over, some petty fucking grudge they’ve held for years or maybe just because they’re bored, who knows.

        if you have to choose between playing with a bad liar or a good liar…playing against the bad liar is just a good business strategy. and that’s all america is, a business, the bottom line is the only thing sacred here…

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    “I’m still a Trump supporter. I’m just not a happy Trump supporter.”

    Anybody who supports trump at this point is either brainless or heartless. Stopped reason after that. That means the guy is either completely uninformed, or he should say “I’m still a pedophile sympathizer”. Ergo, his opinion on the matter is completely worthless.

    Seriously most of these people…ranchers especially…are sitting there like Gilles Fucking Corey yelling out “more face-eating leopards”.

    Y’all need to go vegetarian in protest. Or at least give up red meat. Fuck this guy and fuck his industry.

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      Giles Corey wouldn’t enter a plea to face an unjust trial so they tortured him to get him to enter a plea.

      Giles Corey endured torture so his family would get his property

      There’s no correlation between “More Weight” and “More face-eating leopards”

      Giles Corey was in the right, he wasn’t a wizard. He fought an unjust government.

      “These people” are nothing like Giles Corey

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      Instead of giving up red meat, I have been saving the trimmings so when planting season rolls around I can just grow my own cow.

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        This is the best kind of cow, since as the cow grows it’s unable to move and all the suffering enflavens the meat.

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      These people would cut their own arms off if the people they don’t like would also lose a leg as a result.

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      I gave up red meat, it’s not that hard. Honestly, I’m hoping the market will take this opportunity to come up with more decent vegan alternatives. I’d like to give meat up altogether but the products that are out there currently are pricier than red meat, ffs.

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        This is one reason why I stepped back from veganism after like 6 years and into ovo-lacto.

        The cheese alternatives, especially. You’re paying top-dollar for a sub-par product made by the same Big Food conglomerates. Why give them more money for a worse product. The money still ends up in the same dirty hands, and IMO cheese is way harder to give up than meat or “other dairy”. Other dairy products have come a very, very long way.

        Also fate wound me up with 9 hens and I can’t pass up them eggs.

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          Dairy, by nature of stress-spoiling, is relatively cruelty-free. That is to say, the profit motive is harmed unless you make the cow feel stress-free. So I’ve never seen how milk, butter, and cheese are not vegan. We make cows happy and get good milk in return, in excess of what the calf needs. Seems like a good trade for an animal that cannot survive without humans.

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            There are pockets of feral cattle in the world, including on Swona in Scotland, Australia, etc. So cows dont necessarily need us to survive, but we have bred things like dairy cows to such extremes that I doubt they would fare well. I do think it’s debatable that dairy cows are treated well, I think it unfortunately depends a lot on which farmer they end up with and how they view livestock livelihood.

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            Well, to have milk, the cows have to get pregnanat regularly. The calves are taken away, which is kind of traumatizing. They are often not treated well. The male calves are killed for meat. Also, despite the fact it is possible to use transgenic bacteria, cheese is still produced in many cases by adding calf stomachs as a rennet, so cheese is often not even vegetarian. The real well being of milk cows is also often not as nice as one would expect, despite the fact that stress spoiling is a thing. Turns out some stress level doesn’t matter and some workers don’t mind the risk and enjoy the cruelty. There have recently been some cases made public in my country, so I’m more informed then I’d like to be.

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              The male calves are killed for meat.

              the vast majority of them are brought to full weight before slaughter

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            The cow doesn’t consent.

            As dumb as that sounds, you have to realize that to produce milk you must first be a mother. And to keep milk coming, you gotta continue being a mother.

            Only one way to turn a heifer into a cow…

            Also gotta realize that modern livestock breeds (not just bovine but poultry, pork, etc) are quite removed from their wild ancestors. They are only here because we keep them here. We didn’t extend the same courtesy to most of their wild ancestors.

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              When a cheetah hunts a gazelle, the gazelle doesn’t consent to death. When parasites infest you, you don’t consent. When cows eat grass, the grass doesn’t consent.

              There is nearly no form of food consumption that doesn’t extinguish a life or subjugate another lifeform. Until we can grow food in tubes to feed the human race, that will stay a fact of life for humans. Wild animals will continue though and that isn’t something we can nor should intervene in.

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          Follow Your Heart, which is one of the biggest (and best IMO) for vegan cheese, isn’t owned by another company. Violife is owned by Unilever, but Miyokos was only just bought by Melt Organics. And the only other brands I have seen are all very small brands that are local. So I am not sure why you claim they are owned by “the same Big Food Conglomerates” when Violife is the only one that is true for.

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      I’ve mostly given up eating beef for my own personal health reasons. I won’t seek it out but if a beef dish appears before me at dinner or something, then I’ll have it once in a while.

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      Or at least give up red meat.

      The high prices have done that for me, eating more white meat than ever.

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    Remember all those times Trump made a speech about America First, manufacture and produce everything at home?

    His actions never match his words and everything is for sale including YOUR country.

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    “guy who has proved he is bad at business does a bad business deal, his supporters suffer for it. More at 11.”

    Some of these ranchers are family, so blinded by fear of ethnic minorities and “them damn antifuh slurs” that they can’t see how their blind faith in orange man is actively hurting them. These guys are literally about to lose their ranch to a corporate firm who will almost certainly hire them again to tend it until they die at starvation wages. And when their kids refuse to take those reigns they’ll bring in the very ethnic minorities those idiots are terrified to do the work instead.

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    Reuters spoke with a total of eight ranchers who said they still backed Trump, though he hurt prices for their cattle.

    Wilful stupidity when they vote. Wilful stupidity when they reap the consequences too. You’re supposed to learn something from FAFO.

    Have the life you voted for.

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      Funny, my liberal blue ass is still doing okay in my blue city. Things are more expensive but overall not much has changed for me. Personally I voted blue to help those in need, expand snap, healthcare, and benefits even though in all likelihood I won’t need them.

      Meanwhile they voted to “own” me, whatever that means. I don’t feel owned, but as long as they feel better without those benefits I guess?

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        I feel pretty owned as long as I’m paying hundreds of dollars a month for healthcare, still having to pay when I use that healthcare, and being threatened with death/lack of healthcare if I leave my job.

        I thought Republicans were supposed to be about independence.

        I don’t have room to start my own small business unless I marry someone who can cover our healthcare.

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    They have the critical thinking skills of an 8 year old which is why Trump loves fucking them so much

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      “i love the poorly educated”-trump, this includes people stupid enough to vote for him, even if they had an education.

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    As much as I love LAMF, I think it’s great that some of them are waking up, even if it’s only for selfish reasons, and even if they should have woken up before they voted the damn idiot in a second time.