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Gavin: So, Supersemite Palestine Crusher, welcome. Can I call you Ben for short? OK, so Ben; what’s the deal with all these transes that they have now?? Have you seen them? There’s gotta be literally tens of them out there at this point. It’s out of control.
Ben: Renée Good tried to fly her car into the Israeli Embassy and it was only the quick reactions of that ICE officer that prevented 9/11 2.0.
Saved you 90 minutes 😴
Curious how “big tent” neo-liberals always extend olive branches to the far right when they try to “reach more people”, but never to the leftists.
They’re the same picture.
Oh ffs. I’m so tired of the “I’m just asking questions” bullshit.
Don’t have Nazis on your podcast.
You were an OK governor. You’ll never be president. Real change will never come from a career politician.
He vetoed legal psychedelics, unemployment pay for striking workers, repeatedly ignored COVID restrictions, maintained a relationship with AIPAC, and did photo ops throwing out the only possessions of homeless people.
Yeah. My bar for “OK” is pretty low.
Actively standing against Trump probably gets him more credit than it should, but given the landscape, I’m sticking with it.
Perfection cannot be the enemy of progress.
trump bad is still all these establishment politicians got because they 100% still expect Business As Usual the second he croaks from 1 too many cheeseburgers or trips down the stairs of AF1
what annoys me most is that this aggressive posturing in front of cameras, claiming they’re protecting cities while then going behind closed doors and greenlighting them to go ham on poor areas, will probably work wonders in securing the square community
This is a great point. I think overt polarization is a major issue, because it means other bad actors get really far with something as simple as “trump bad”.
i don’t think trump is even really the center-piece in that respect, it’s goddamn braindead sacks of fear and hate that Murdoch’s empire makes, that everyone sane is so afraid of. as long as his conservative propaganda machine is running these idiots will continue getting louder and louder as they feel empowered. fox news is the single most watched program in the country…it’s insane.
interacting with these people irl is honestly terrifying, they’re in a cult and you can see the moment their programming takes hold in real time.
and that’s not changing anytime soon, the grifters and empowered racists push the overton window further right that i’m not even sure it taking out Fox News could stop it now (in theory, Fox News is in a very precarious position right now. his dauvhters want to sell the business off for scraps, his 1st son wants to continue the family business of spreading hate)
Refusing to vote for pro-genocide, pro-homeless-persecution candidates isn’t “perfection”, it’s basic human empathy. I could probably give a pass on the other points for political purposes.
I’m literally not suggesting that anyone vote for him.
Guess I misunderstood “sticking with it” then, sorry
Sticking with my original statement of “OK”:
You were an OK governor. You’ll never be president. Real change will never come from a career politician.
For fucks sake this guy. Stop platforming bigots and traitors you corporate fuck.
But without them, he’s nothing. This is his personal brand now: the anti-Trump. He has to invite these guys onto his show so he can say edgy things to them.
He had Charlie Kirk on before he got kirked. Said that democrats went too far on trans rights, I believe
He had Charlie Kirk on before he got kirked.
Here’s to hoping that lightning strikes twice, then. 🤞
Oh right, Charlie Kirk. I keep getting the two of them confused. For some reason, I keep being surprised that Shapiro is still alive and hasn’t been shot in the fucking neck.
He talks too fast. It actually be stabilizes his atoms while he shouting gibberish. Bullets travel right through him like Kitty pride.
Why does a governor have a podcast?
I hate this fucking country.
corporate billionaire sellout politicians like Newsom ultimately don’t believe in anything, they just have some yesman PR they follow mindlessly.
unless they’re very complacent or confident their district is secure enough to not campaign at all, politicians have to go where the people are for messaging/staying relevant.
podcasting is bigger than mainstream media at this point, because of how blatantly manipulated and fake it has all been for decades. hell streaming is too fucking…asmongold, a random hoarder famous for being disgusting, has more regular viewers than Jimmy Kimmel.
at this point those 3-4 letter networks play to crowd composed almost entirely of dying boomer retirees, most of these people grew up before the internet proper…and have likely never known/seen anything but manufactured consent programming their entire lives unless they happened to see the light in college or their parents were proper progressives.
definitely don’t think a governor really needs to bother having a podcast, if anything that makes em seem even less relatable to the supposed market their PR thinks they’re reaching. “doing the circuit” on all various different podcasts would be much more effective in reaching out. hosting your podcast creates 1 bubble, doing the circuit reaches out to X bubbles.
Why not? FDR had a podcast.
Ever heard of the fireside chats?
Fuckin why?
Because Newsom doesn’t believe in anything except that he should have more political power
Fuck this “too far left” nonsense. Centrism as a philosophy buffs aggressors but centrism as an art gets votes.
centrism as an art gets votes.
Which is why harris is president right now. centrism has failed and you won’t admit it because you like the results.
Oh are you one of those privileged leftists who doesn’t have to fear the realities of civil/world war? Or just a common accelerationist/terminally depressed netizen/casual propaganda enjoyer?
I’m someone who noticed that centrists’ assertion that centrism gets votes isn’t borne out by the actual votes.
Stop advocating for losing strategies just because you’d rather lose to fascists than change.
No, it gets money; it evidently does not get votes.
the ironic thing to me is the “just another greedy jew”, as they’re known by the crowd they pander too, will be among the first lined up by these racists once their done terrorizing brown people. meanwhile almost all manner of proper progressives just want them to…pay slightly more $ in taxes, with more progressive people generally just wanting them to pay ever slightly more.
Not the first terrible person he’s had a guest on that podcast. Also not the only terrible person in that episode.
I just remembered Ben Shapiro’s lack of comprehension when it came to the saucy exaggerations featured in the song “WAP”. Honestly, I feel this is a bad move for Gavin as inviting someone who lacks the ability to have a meaningful dialogue and just shills the next outrage piece. Not that Gavin has a leg to stand on given his abandonment of Trans Rights…
from someone outside california, sadly it looks like without any serious competition he can do/say pretty much whatever he wants and win just off a bit of posturing against trump.
maybe there’s some grassroots Mamdani level campaign in the works that can upset him though, idk
After the Mamdani campaign, I would be shocked if someone wasn’t at least contemplating it. It would take a very special person to do it though, as you have to be genuine as fuck and act on your ideals. Like Mamdani who went to all the places his constituents hang out. He, a heterosexual man went to a gay bar in the early morning hours and to talk to the men there, he treated them with respect in their own space. I would love to see something like this be replicated more…I have the charisma of a rotten lemon peel so it couldn’t be me. ROFL
the best grassroots really do come out of nowhere though, maybe there’s one in the works and I just don’t know it yet.
ideally you don’t want the mainstream catching onto the fact their position is threatened until the last minute. that’s when their overt (but now panicked) messaging comes off as desperate and unrelatable.
Genuinely good chance he’s the Democratic nominee for 2028 btw (assuming there’s an election that is)
I can definitely see the DNC trying to shove him down our throats. Hopefully there are some actual challengers in the primaries.
GavinGavage NewsomI like to think that the political machine we’re building to combat the Trump administration will flatten the DNC old guard pretty handily. Time will tell, but they barely had a handle on Bernie when there was no organization or understanding of the scale of the fight. I’m hopeful.
the political machine we’re building to combat the Trump administration will flatten the DNC old guard pretty handily.
Except no such thing exists. MAGA hasn’t created any meaningful surge in independent progressive (let alone genuine leftwing) politics; it’s only compelled the center left to close ranks with the center against the rising tide of the far right. There’s zero momentum for “flattening the old guard;” if you want to do that you’ll have to actually try.
Lmao primaries. Good one
The courts already allowed DNC to rig their primaries, I bet they’ll keep up the theater. Might as well.
“We could have voluntarily decided that, ‘Look, we’re gonna go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way,” DNC’s lawyer Bruce Spiva told a Florida court.
Unless you mean Trump. Probably you mean Trump. Last time he tried stealing the country (before getting elected again wtf) the military seemed ready to intervene. Wonder if that’d happen now.
Both interpretations work
I keep hearing this line about how there might not be an election. Even Russia holds elections. They’re total shams, but it’s easier to cheat on an election than to throw out your entire form of government. People still believe a little bit in the legitimacy of American elections so Trump will definitely try to steal one rather than cancel it. Once no one even gives a shit about them, then they might get canceled. But that brings me back to… places like Russia still hold them, even when everyone knows they are bunk.
That’s kinda what I meant. Like sure they’re will be an election, but like will it actually be an election
This post doesn’t fit this community.
I agree. It may have a few years ago. The level of bullshittery for a nottheonion has inflated wildly.
DEMOCRATS DONT DESERVE TO WIN. FUCK THEM FOR BEING FURTHER RIGHT WING THAN W BUSH.
Absolutely. Democrats support genocide and (unless a Republican is in charge) support ICE. That’s not a “lesser evil”… it also isn’t even quantifiably a lesser measure of dead bodies, if that’s all you care about for some reason.
The DNC is where progressive movements go to die. It cannot be reformed.
And that mentality is how we ended up with the worse of two evils. Better to have a Democrat than a fascist.
Youve been saying the same shit since 1992. Have. Non. Garbage. Candidates. Dems are right wing thanks to people like you.
I’d gladly vote for a progressive if given the option to in the primaries, but should they not win, the solution to the problem is not letting the country get even worse by letting fascists into the White House during the general election.
left-america has made more gains in the last two trump terms than the last…40-50 years.
most americans are apparently too selfish, dumb, or isolated that they only see the light as to just how corrupt their government is when the economy is bad enough for them to feel direct personal pain. that hardship happens most under republicans, who want the economy to crash…
that’s when people who know how the US economy really functions stand to make the most $ and gobble up the most distressed assets. it’s a cycle of Boom and Bust (very old investment term btw, look it up) that has been going on pretty much aince the country was founded
Stop.
You’re going to lose to a fascist again if your garbage party does the “we’re second worst and you have no choice” shit again.
Listen to your voters for fucking once. Republicans are not your voters. Netanyahu cannot vote for you.
I’m not a Democrat and would gladly vote for a democratic socialist candidate if I could, but pragmatism is necessary to keep fascists from running the country. So much suffering could have been prevented had people been useful idiots to the Republicans by elevating them with a false moral equivalence.
And anyone who didn’t vote for Harris over Palestine has now not only doomed the Palestinians, but Ukrainians fighting for their sovereignty, hardworking immigrants, and transgender, low-income, and minority Americans as well.
keep blaming voters, it might actually be true when trump secures his 3rd term
I voted for harris, so stop centrist-splaining that I need to vote how I already voted in an election that’s already over.
Anyone who still advocates or apologizes for a strategy of offering as little as possible while ignoring the voters is advocating for losing to fascists. Again.
That strategy has hit a wall. Regardless of how you may personally vote, it doesn’t change that the electorate is fed up with a party that refuses to do anything but sell weapons for genocide.
And anyone who didn’t vote for Harris over Palestine has now not only doomed the Palestinians,
I keep seeing liberals saying this, but it’s just not true. There’s no metric by which Trump is worse on Palestine than Biden (and by extension Harris, who has was virtually indistinguishable from him on the issue). As for everyone else, what, did you think Harris was going to do anything for poor Americans and minorities? Jk she wouldn’t have done (or been able to do) shit because centrists kill down ballot elections. More fundamentally, though, fascism was inevitable under the political status quo; the choice was between fascism now and fascism later. If meaningful change doesn’t come from the left, people will look for it on the right; thinking 2025 was fluke is nothing short of delusional.
People like you created the idea of the lesser of two evil which led to people in last election to consider trump the less evil.
Centrists susceptible to propaganda to the point of thinking that Trump was the lesser evil were the ultimate problem.
It is the two party system. A system thsat should have been abolished a century ago
The electoral college is certainly a problem, but letting the Republicans win doesn’t solve it.
The US will keep switching between both party like usual with this system unless Trump goes full dictator aboloshing elections
California über alles
