• luridness@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    Do the Americans not realise that… like every single one of them going back 4-5 generations are immigrants? Very few native Americans are out there because of immigration.

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      Most Americans realize this, but our government doesn’t give a shit what we think right now. Trump and the GOP are not representing us.

      Look at Greenland. 75% of Americans oppose what Trump is doing with that topic. That’s disgustingly low, too… But still, he does it anyway.

      This isn’t new. Most Americans have no agency. We’re just a few notches above slave labor at this phase. All we can do is vote, but the wealthy are influencing those votes all over the country with money and propaganda.

      For every sane person speaking out, there’s two to three others that have given up on everything. They’ll just watch the news and do what it says. Or, worse, a massive percentage of Americans don’t do anything. They don’t vote, they just take it because they’ve given up completely on everything outside the ongoing crisis that is their lives.

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      It’s not about imigration. Only brown and black are “imigrants”.

      …although even white women are being killed now

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      17 hours ago

      They’re arresting and detaining the actual native Americans too. Because they really want a Christo-fascist white state, not a native one.

      That’s why they want to import the racists from South Africa.

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      The people calling for these atrocities and committing them are white supremacists. What is happening is exactly what they want to happen.

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        Which is stupid because their ancestors aren’t from this land. And millions of “not-whites” were forced to come here! Not that they will ever understand that.

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          When those immigrants were coming to the US, they were not considered “white”. Sometimes the discrimination was because of skin colour, sometimes it was religion. But, they weren’t considered to have the morals and work ethic of the English-descended protestants that dominated the USA.

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            I’m not even talking about immigrants. I’m talking about even older ancestors. Invaders.

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      24 hours ago

      Just as most Americans who have moved to other countries refuse to call themselves immigrants, and default to calling themselves “expats”, most don’t seem to get that, no.

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          An expat is anyone who lives outside of their native country while intending to return, while an immigrant is someone who moves to another country permanently.

          One reason why you rarely hear about American “immigrants” to other countries is that it is absurdly hard to relinquish US citizenship. So even if an American were to gain citizenship elsewhere, they still owe US income tax, and are reminded of their status every April.

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            They still have to file income taxes. But, most places have higher taxes than the USA. Most places also have reciprocal tax agreements with the US. There’s also a deduction of something like $100k, so the first $100k (or local equivalent) you earn in another country isn’t taxed. As a result, unless you’re making high six figures, you don’t actually owe any American taxes.

            OTOH, just filing US taxes is a real pain in the ass. In the US it’s made very slightly easier by your employer, bank, etc. all supplying you with the tax forms you need. If you’re overseas, you need to figure out the info you’d need to supply on that form yourself.

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          24 hours ago

          Sure, but that only seems to apply to Americans, and in some parts Brits.

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            It is less of a US thing, and more of a class thing. Expats are temporary work assignments overseas usually for high paying leadership positions.