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    Didn’t Epstein say that Trump is the most vile person he ever met, and he himself said that he met some absolutely disgusting people?

    If I remember correctly there even was a case where Trump was allegedly accused of impregnating a 14 year old girl which “vanished”. Files revealed that they probably tossed her in some sort of lake.

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      Nothing was ever going to happen. The rich are not subject to the law in the US.

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    We are sorry, the page you’re looking for can’t be found on the Department of Justice website.

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    Ya know…you might expect a couple of loonies filing fake reports against somebody as high-profile as Trump.

    And I could totally see Trump’s DOJ tossing as many non-credible reports on top to make it sound like all of them are just crazyy.

    But nobody could possibly piss off this many people into making this many fake reports.

    Even if 1% of them are legit, that’s far too many. And you know it’s probably more like 80-90%.

    This is way bigger than Clinton’s blowjob (from Lewinsky).

    Where the fuck is the outrage in Washington?

    Oh half of them are mentioned in the documents. Well, that explains it then.

    Is it pitchfork time? We gotta be getting close by now. Right?

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      Where the fuck is the outrage in Washington?

      It’s been Exhausted/Diluted/Usurped by a neverending onslaught of daily ragebait and all the other atrocities currently happening in the nation and world.

      Is this intentional? I can’t prove it but I think to an extent it is. But it’s not just about the Epstein files, it’s the people who enable Trump and the people who own him keeping him in place because his a useful tool for malfeasance on many, many fronts.

      Should we be more upset about a global cabal of pedos, Gaza, ICE shooting people, Greenland, or what’s about to happen in Iran? What’s the biggest threat? The economy? The climate? China? Russia? Fascism? Terrorism? Antivaxxer’s fetish for contracting preventable diseases? Mass shootings? Robotaxis commiting road rage? AI disinfo and job loss? Housing costs? Groceries…?

      All of this, whether by design or coincidence, is working together to force people to keep their heads down and worry about themselves as much as possible. That’s why it’s so important to organize, to give material and verbal support to protestors and advocates when you can, and to build a community where you live.

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        Outrage doesnt work on the right. Their hatred for other groups far outwieghs any thought of policing their own. And I’d bet that will never change. They will happily use fake outrage on others though so thats fun for everyone.

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      Where the fuck is the outrage in Washington?

      There’s probably a lot of them in the files is my guess.

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        No one has been able to explain how Epstein got his money to get this whole thing started. He did also have a lot of ties to the Mossad and senior Isreali leaders. It’s pretty likely his work was an Israeli influence operation. Fund someone to build a sex island and staff it with illegally young girls that can’t be found in such numbers anywhere else. Provide means for the rich and powerful to discretely access the island. Fill the place with video and audio recording equipment. Create records of everything that happens there. Then, invite as many members of the American ruling class to rape children on the island as possible. You now have lifelong blackmail on every one of those people. For the cost of a few tens of millions, Israel bought itself control of the American political and business elite. Even if they only manage to snag 1 in 10 of these leaders in their web, it’s enough. That guarantees that whenever a big decision is made regarding US-Israeli relations, there will be someone in the room that the Mossad has lifelong blackmail material on. There are few more powerful forms of blackmail imaginable than telling someone “we literally have video of you raping children.”

        It does go a long way to explaining both parties’ total capitulation to Israel. Up until the 1990s or so, Israel was an ally, but we didn’t see this fawning supplication we do now. Presidents were willing to actually stand up to the Israeli government and use American funding to rein them in. At the same time, Israel also wields the Mossad, probably the single most competent espionage, influence, and assassination outfit on the planet. Look at what they managed to do to all those Iranian nuclear scientists or the mass pager attack. The Mossad are terrifyingly competent, and they truly believe in their cause. Blackmailing the US political class on a massive scale is something entirely within their capability.

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      But nobody could possibly piss off this many people into making this many fake reports.

      Are you kidding? 50% of the country hates Trump, some enough to make attempts on his life. But you think there’s no way this many could possibly make this stuff up?

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      This is way bigger than Clinton’s blowjob (from Lewinsky).

      Yeah, no need to defend one predator while going after another. String em both up, and let Monica pull the lever.

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        Are you suggesting that Clinton getting a blowjob from Lewinsky and then lying about it is the same in kind and degree to what is alleged in the released pages of the Epstein files?

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          Clinton was also a close friend of Epstein. Protecting him is likely why the Democrats didn’t use Trump’s friendship with Epstein effectively.

          You need to stop making that mistake. Defending and protecting Clinton, who is a predator (as the Lewinsky affair among many shows) means protecting Epstein, and thus Trump.

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            The original comment was about Clinton’s blowjob only. I was very clear in my question, and constrained it to that only because at the time you had not explicitly extended it to all of Clinton’s involvement with Epstein.

            Now that you’ve decided to do so, I’ll preface by saying I’m Canadian, and I don’t give a shit about Clinton, so if indeed his involvement is as bad as Trump, then punish him the same. Obviously they should be punished - as the law is intended to do - according to the severity of their crimes. I will say this: The Trump involvement in the last drop has been nightmarish, if even 5% is true, and I can’t help but consider that the Justice department is incentivized to release material that amplifies Clinton’s involvement and diminishes Trump’s, and if this is the best they can do then Trump is truly a monster.

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                These crimes are horrendous, but I’m guessing you haven’t really thought about the implications of the death penalty very deeply, and in particular in relation to crimes of CSA. For one thing, it’s a sure fire way to end up with a lot more dead kids.

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                  Yeah, I have. My family includes criminal defense attorneys who are staunch opponents of the death penalty.

                  And I am in most cases - with the exception being cases like this, or war crimes, where the very powerful are inflicting massive harm with confidence they will get away with it. That is when it is useful, as something even the powerful must fear. China’s execution of bankers follows this.

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        People can’t say they were fooled. After all, they elected the guy who bragged about grabbing them by the pussy.

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          Sexual assault is FUNNY. Women love it when you are in a position of power over them and you use that as an opportunity to molest them.

          That pretty much sums up how all conservative women must think unless they are in complete denial.

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      Pulling them down AFTER the fact makes it look sooo much worse.

      The DOJ has lost all of its credibility. What a total shitshow.

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        It’s like crowd sourced redaction. Dump a bunch of minimally vetted files, see what starts showing up on blogs, delete those and act like it never existed.

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    this is absolutely fucking beyond insane lol. i mean, it’s long since been that but this shit really highlights it. how can you possibly turn a blind eye to this? people will, the same people who claim to want to protect women and children. these are going to be an unforgettable 3.5 million files. i imagine discoveries will be made for years to come.

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            Yeah, the reason being:

            Third, the investigation established that several individuals affiliated with the Trump Campaign lied to the Office, and to Congress, about their interactions with Russian-affiliated individuals and related matters. Those lies materially impaired the investigation of Russian election interference. The Office charged some of those lies as violations of the federal false-statements statute. Former National Security Advisor Michael Flynn pleaded guilty to lying about his interactions with Russian Ambassador Kislyak during the transition period. George Papadopoulos, a foreign policy advisor during the campaign period, pleaded guilty to lying to investigators about, inter alia, the nature and timing of his interactions with Joseph Mifsud, the professor who told Papadopoulos that the Russians had dirt on candidate Clinton in the form of thousands of emails. Former Trump Organization attorney Michael Cohen pleaded guilty to making false statements to Congress about the Trump Moscow project.>

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              Ok, so you’re taking the fact that the entire Mueller investigation could produce nothing showing meaningful Russian interference to be an issue as proof that there was meaningful Russian interference?

              The only charges that came out were perjury.

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                No… There is simply no doubt that there was Russian interference:

                As set forth in detail in this report, the Special Counsel’s investigation established that Russia interfered in the 2016 presidential election principally through two operations. First, a Russian entity carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. Second, a Russian intelligence service conducted computer-intrusion operations against entities, employees, and volunteers working on the Clinton Campaign and then released stolen documents. The investigation also identified numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign.

                On February 16, 2018, a federal grand jury in the District of Columbia returned an indictment charging 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities— including the Internet Research Agency (IRA) and Concord Management and Consulting LLC (Concord)—with violating U.S. criminal laws in order to interfere with U.S. elections and political processes.

                The Mueller investigation couldn’t bring criminal charges of conspiracy against Manafort & co., but they obviously had contact and were found guilty lying about it.

                But sure, giving these people the benefit of the doubt is completely normal behavior in 2026. You go on defending them as much as you want.