• Onno (VK6FLAB)@lemmy.radio
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    153
    ·
    6 days ago

    If you’re wondering, it’s a cute idea but they clearly haven’t actually done a sleep study. Being wired up to 19 sensors leaves little room for movement, let alone extracurricular activities.

    Source: I had my second sleep study last week.

    • state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      37
      ·
      5 days ago

      I never understood the point of a sleep study. How is this highly artificial environment supposed to deliver helpful results? How are you supposed to sleep at all in this kind of environment?

      • Karjalan@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        35
        ·
        5 days ago

        I did a sleep study that was done at home. They just sent a device I clipped on my index finger, strapped around my chest and put a small tube around my nose.

        It’s definitely still a little artificial, but it’s at home with no one live monitoring you. As long as you get some sleep they can use stats and all the various data to get an idea of what’s going on.

        • the_crotch@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          17
          arrow-down
          5
          ·
          5 days ago

          “Hmm, it seems the patient has trouble sleeping with a device clipped on their index finger, strapped around their chest and a small tube around their nose. Prescribe xanax. Next patient.”

          • ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            5 days ago

            I don’t even need a damn study. I snore loudly, wake up often if I don’t sleep on my side, and am overweight. I have OSA. There’s no real need for further diagnostics.

      • takeda@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        5 days ago

        For sleep apnea for example which only happens when you are asleep they only need you to be asleep and then they monitor when it happens then adjust air pressure etc and see if that helps.

        Their equipment is much more precise than for example CPAP machine, so they get more exact data.

    • NathanUp@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      25
      ·
      6 days ago

      Yea, sleep studies suck. You’re in stuffy room tethered to a machine by a million wires everywhere from your knees up and covered in smelly glue and sticky pads. After a night of that, if you’re lucky, you’ll get to stay for the entire next day and try to force yourself to take naps every couple of hours.

    • justme@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      3 days ago

      I had enough movement for such stuff and was actually afraid it might happen… the night shift was mainly covered by cute students

    • stupidcasey@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      ·
      5 days ago

      I’ve never done a sleep study either but I can tell you right now I couldn’t sleep under those conditions without a good wank first.

    • RangerJosie@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      6 days ago

      I’ve had undiagnosed untreated sleep apnea for almost 20 years.

      I need one badly. But there’s no fkin way I can go to a Strange place full of strange people and go to sleep while wired up like the the Matrix.

      Guess I’ll just die.

      • toynbee@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        13
        ·
        5 days ago

        I had basically the same thought. I don’t sleep well now and I didn’t then.

        However, it turns out they don’t need much data. The night they did my first sleep study, I woke up a number of times in the double digits in an amount of time that was so annoying to them that they gave up and sent me home early. They were still able to affect a diagnosis (and back it up with quantifiable data, lest you think them fakers). A full night of sleep is helpful to them to do things like verify your symptoms, but it seems not that much is needed.

        Also, as others have said, you can do an at home study. I did one of those as well (later) and it was just a finger sensor (basically a pulse oximeter) and a sticky pad you put on your chest (which does kinda suck if you have chest hair but isn’t unpleasant or cumbersome otherwise). I trust that test less, but in case you feel you have sleep apnea, it’s less weird and just as likely to get you the equipment you need.

        Lots of people describe their CPAP as life changing and I believe them. For me I wouldn’t call it life changing in the traditional sense, but I would describe it as beneficial enough that I recommend one. Even if it were 100% psychosomatic, I would say it helps enough that it’s improved my sleep. I recommend a test to you. Worst case scenario, it’s one unpleasant night to find where you stand. Best case scenario, it really is life changing (and hopefully for the better)! If you have questions, while I’m in no way even remotely an expert, I have been through it and would be happy to answer any to the best of my knowledge.

        Please take care of yourself if you can. Your health is worth it.

      • Onno (VK6FLAB)@lemmy.radio
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        9
        ·
        5 days ago

        Talk to the specialist, my sleep study last week was done at home in my own bed. Went into hospital for an hour to get wired up, drove home and went to bed at my normal time.

        • necromancyr@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          12
          ·
          5 days ago

          Mine was just a finger sensor and a chest sensor I put on myself. Ended up having serious sleep apnea and now on a CPAP. Sleep is significantly improved. Just do it!

      • PolarisFx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        5 days ago

        My first sleep study was 3 hours, then they got scared and woke me up and sent me home.

        Turns out I had very severe sleep apnea.

        My second sleep test was a trial using CPAP, that lasted 2 hours before they swapped in a BiPap and a full face mask. Slept like a baby after that.

        My wife has mild sleep apnea, her pressure is 6, my pressure is 22. It wasn’t until I got an Auto BiPap, that adjusts between 20-25 that my sleep really got better.

        • pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online
          cake
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          5 days ago

          You can tinker with your settings too. There’s a piece of software called sleepyhead that will display all of the stats from your unit’s SD card, and you can get your settings dialed in using it.

          I had to because my pressure would go up so high that it would cause my mask to leak and I had to wake up and restart the unit to get it to a normal pressure.

          • PolarisFx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            4 days ago

            When I had my S9 normal bipap I used to use Sleepyhead and also the official Resmed software that only the DME’s had access to, to modify my settings. Once I had my machine I never went back for follow-up appointments, I managed things myself. When I got my new machine, I had my sleep doctor specify an Auto machine because I wanted to fiddle with things less. I knew what pressures worked best for me, but I wanted a machine that would increase the pressure if needed.

            My pressure is already high enough that there’s only a couple masks that I can clamp down to my face enough to go leak free. For the past 8 years I’ve used a Resmed Mirage Quattro and I keep a supply of new headgear handy for when I eventually wear them out.

            Sucks I had to get to 40 before doctors figured out what was wrong with me. I’ve lost more weight this year then in my whole life combined including the year I got put on Ozempic. But still I have days where my AHI is through the roof. So many things are getting better for me health wise but I still have so many sleep issues.

  • Metostopholes@midwest.social
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    54
    ·
    6 days ago

    I did a sleep study once. Right before they had me go to sleep they said something like “Okay, we’re going to turn off our monitoring and cameras, in case there"s anything you need to do. Just press this button to call us when you’re ready.”

    I appreciated it, but I was still too weird a situation to jerk off.

      • Metostopholes@midwest.social
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        26
        ·
        5 days ago

        That reminds me of an extremely strange part of a movie, Brainstorm from 1983. The movie is about a device that attaches like an EEG and records (on tape!) all the sensory input the person is having, and can be played back for someone else to experience. One guy who’s kind of a jerk records himself having sex then cuts out a loop of tape with just when he came. He is found by the other characters playing it back, having had something like an 8 hour long orgasm. Bizarrely, afterwards he was much nicer and wiser. This is how I remember it anyway. I might have to watch it again.

        TL;DR A guy reaches enlightenment from sci-fi VR porn.

  • fin@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    21
    ·
    6 days ago

    It’s actually helpful though, it makes you exhausted and sleepy. The side effect though is that whenever you get sleepy, it becomes hard, and I’m struggling with it.