Donald Trump warned Tuesday that if the Democrats don’t approve funding, there are dangers to the future of Social Security and Medicare.
Trump said at a press conference that when he asked Democrats for feedback on the funding bills, one said, “It means death.”
“There’s nothing about death,” Trump said. “Theirs is death because they’re going to lose Medicaid, they’re going to lose Social Security, they’re going to lose Medicare, all of those things are going to be gone because the whole country would be bankrupt, and you’re not going to have any kind of medical insurance.”
If it’s so important, Republicans should accept their very reasonable changes, Donald.
But republicans control every facet of government right now. They can easily end the shutdown right now.
Why can’t we have a no confidence vote and get rid of the party in charge?
Did they really not build a mechanism for us to collectively vote no confidence? I feel like they’re abusing every trick in the book and nobody can find a way to stop it
How would social security be gone? It’s in a special trust fund that is seperate and apart from the government’s budget.
“I have to help my Argentinian friend!” Trump blurted.
The president added of Democrats, “We will not be extorted on this crazy part of this. They’ve never done this before. Nobody has. You always vote for an extension.”
JFC. Republicans do this every single time Democrats have control of Congress. And, every single time…Democrats give them what they want, in order to get a deal made. Now that Democrats are finally following the Republicans example, they fuckin’ lose their shit, and everything falls apart.
And idiots lap it up and moan about how the Schumer shutdown is going to impact their appointment at the doctor next month if all those crazy socialists, like Nancy Pelosi, don’t listen to reason.
US entering the “third world country”-club. Congratulations.
Bro, the US has been a 3rd world country masquerading as a 1st world country a lot longer than Trump. The US propaganda machine is top tier, fooling American citizens that theyre greatest enemy is each other, as well as promoting individualism at the cost of the individual.
Richest nation on earth yet the majority are 1 health emergency away from bankruptcy, to people skipping doctor visits due to how expensive our Healthcare is while the rest of the world gets to enjoy free healthcare. Wake the fuck up, “entering” like thanks for the depressing ass chuckle this morning.
There are almost 800,000 homeless in the US, you could have an entire city of just homeless people. US is already a 3rd world country. Has been for a long time now. ICE won’t even round them up cause even ICE doesn’t want to deal with them incarcerated.
US has less homeless per capita than Sweden, Germany, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, France, the UK. And others. You understand the US has 340+ million people right?
It’s also the richest country in the world with the biggest economy yet it has almost 1,000,000 homeless. Enough to populate a good sized city. That’s some cope.
Oh that’s right, America bad, I almost forgot.
The richest country on earth with the largest military, both by a large margin, should be able to have solved problems other countries haven’t.
Then again those clowns voted in a failed gameshow host with incontinence and dementia TWICE to their country’s highest office. He demo’d their White House and commits crimes on a daily basis and yet - tens of millions love him. So yeah:
Not to be that guy, but the first, second, third world naming scheme stems from racism and isn’t based on any real statistics.
It’s actually from the Cold War.
1st world = USA, NATO, and their allies. 2nd world = USSR, the Eastern Bloc and their allies (the 2nd world doesn’t really exist anymore). 3rd world = anyone not in the 1st or 2nd categories.
You are right though it’s not about any real statistics. It’s about political alignment.
Yep, right, which kind of also inherently excludes most non-white countries from the top two tiers.
Whether it was intentional or not, it definitely didn’t help the image of non-white countries.
Anyone else remembers the Cheeto proclaiming that in just two weeks he’d have a healthcare bill that would be better than Medicare?
Pepperidge farm remembers
Someday the money from the tariffs will trickle down to the common American. Just like the tax cuts for the rich from the 1980s.
I cannot wait for the “pepperidge farm” stupid fucking Family Guy meme to just die off.
You don’t need to constantly parrot 20 year old memes. No one is reading that and going “haha, oh man so funny, like from the Family Guy show?? Lmao”
Maybe you’re right but also fuck you
I’ll take it.
Well that’s exactly what a meme is, it passes on the meta info without having to explicitly say it all. Like Arthur’s first.
Gone to funding ballrooms and Argentinian farms
Warns? Must be a rally. If it were to his donors, it’d be “promises”.
It’s a warning in the same sense as someone warns that your building might burn down if you don’t pay protection money.
Most of his mind might be gone, but the extortion part is still operative.
Social security has been withdrawn frim my paycheck for 40 years… shit better be there for me when its my turn.
Whats more dangerous than a starving, homeless man with nothing more to lose.
Ok, but hear me out. We didn’t have a ballroom in the white house for fancy parties.
Oh fuck. You’re right! Totally worth it. We’re so selfish.
25 million staving homeless men with a purpose
Some cuts may be necessary in these trying times
There are YouTube videos on how to build one of these.
I’m pretty sure a few people could just figure one out from memory. Thats like early game minecraft type shit.
Someone with actual power.
Who knows what the future holds, but anyway the people over the past 40 years receiving social security direct deposited into their bank accounts every month thank you for your obligatory contributions. They couldn’t be living large without you 😜
Many retirees ain’t ‘living large’ as you seem to think. Many need to continue to work to afford groceries, pay rent, and buy medications. So many medications. And medicare doesn’t cover everything you need when your old. You pay for the Part B medicare, a minimum of $150 per month and the cost goes up if you have more money. But you STILL nee to buy extra supplemental insurance to cover the things medicare doesn’t cover. So several $100’s more a month for insurance. And do this while on a fixed income…
If you weren’t living large before you retired, you ain’t living large after you retire.
This is a casual discussion forum, sorry you didn’t see I was exaggerating. Any amount of money put into one’s bank account with no effort is “living large” (slight exaggeration) in my opinion. Hey I’m struggling too. Life is not easy.
The idea behind social security is that the recipients already put in a career’s worth of effort. They paid social security taxes for however many years, and now they are ENTITLED to the payments they receive in their retirement. It’s their money.
I understand but when we had to wait 50 years to get back that money we put into the pot, it’s retirement time and we are literally relaxing, not working anymore. The money appears in our bank accounts while we spend our last few years on vacation.
I’m so sorry you feel like you need to explain the concept of social security to me.
Yes, but the money you get isnt enough to live on when retired. You need huge savings and possibly keep on working into yoyr 70s and 80s
This is pitiful reporting by Newsweek. They’re happy to state what each side is saying about the situation, and they fail to do even the most basic research to fact check any of the statements.
The article cites Republicans as saying that Democrats “want to provide free health care to illegal aliens”. The heavy implication is that without the budget Reps are trying to push, we will be paying for that or that Dems wouldn’t approve a budget that didn’t - which is just patently untrue.
Ignoring that hospitals will, of course, provide emergency care to anyone (not for free, mind), and focusing on the idea of major U.S. benefits programs providing help to undocumented immigrants… they just don’t. They go to Americans and qualifying resident non-citizens, i.e. green-card holders, etc. who have been here 5+ years (Medicare) or have paid enough into the relevant taxes (Social Security). Medicaid is similar.
This is stuff I was previously familiar with and was able to verify in minutes using basic internet resources.
Republicans say or imply benefit money will go to undocumented immigrants unless this budget is passed, which is patently untrue and easy to check on. That Newsweek gives Republicans voice throughout the article to their claims, some false and some unfounded, but only gives one Democrat a quote - one that focuses on the shutdown itself more than the funding/benefit claims - is bullshit.
I’m not saying it’s wrong Newsweek didn’t give equal “time” to each side. I’m saying it’s wrong they spend so much of the article quoting misinformation from Republicans without any clear fact-checking.
There’s a quote, one with various forms and attributions, that posits to journalists:
If one person claims it’s raining and another says the sun is shining, the media’s job isn’t to quote both—it’s to look out the window and report the truth.
Our media is bought and paid for by wealthy interests who want all this.
It’s actually ironic that MAGA were right that a lot of mainstream media couldn’t be trusted… Just for the wrong fucking reasons and instead of being skeptical and thoughtful they just started listening to random asshats on the internet.
This is pitiful reporting by Newsweek
It ALWAYS is, my man, it always is…
(I recommend to substitute “Newsweek” with “Main Stream Media”, for best results ! )
To be clear, the day SS is gone is the day I’m willing to pick up a gun and get this party started.
And I know I’m not alone.
This society doesn’t need to continue functioning the day SS stops functioning. So the treasonous Republican party can go ahead and do that and find out what happens next.
The sad thing is, most of us (Americans on Lemmy/Piefed) are probably not going to see why we need social security.
It’s basically a government ran pension plan if you can’t work. Most of us can work and are. So we don’t see why we invented it during the great depression to aid in a social safety net when shit goes south.
And Trump is most likely going to continue plummeting shit into an economy as bad as the Great Depression. Some already had the question of “Do I eat today or do I save up to pay for rent this month?” And Trump isn’t the person to solve it, only make it worse.
Most of us probably don’t claim the funds from it, and go “Oh this is just for the elderly, not for me. I’m 20 to 30 something and able bodied, this is for when I’m 60 something and walking with a cane.”
When Trump guts it and if we have any resemblance of the federal government when we need Social Security, this will probably have lasting effects when we need to claim our benefits.
And the even sadder part, all of his voting base will just nod along. “The gubberment took money from muh paycheck, says so here in muh paystub, fucking woke commie Democrats. Da woke took muh $100 a month, I had to spend that on Trump hats!”
Why wait?
Well if he waits maybe he’ll get a sale on a cool new gun.
The real answer is that DF expects it to be solved without their help.
He’s planning on getting rid of those anyway, so he can continue to fuck right off.
But think of the trillions!
Of tax dollars his donors will save.
The only reason Trump cares about the shutdown is because his people are telling him he will be blamed the worse it gets.
