…fuck, I’m old…

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    I’m so conflicted about Jim Carey. On one hand, he’s a based socialist, on the other, he’s an anti-vaxxer conspiracy theorist idiot.

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        I had this with the youtuber and investigative journalist Johnny Harris. He has some good videos where he does deep dive investigative journalism but then in other videos he hears something and just accepts it as fact. For instance, in his video on who is Elon Musk he accepts what Musk said about his history as fact and didn’t check any of it. Or he uses multiple sources all leading to the same source: Musk. So the entire video is a big Musk circlejerk promo video. But with other videos he doesn’t accept something that easily and goes really deep to find the truth. So I googled the guy, apparently he’s a devout Mormon. How can I take this guy seriously with anything if I can’t trust him to check his sources properly every time, when some things are just what he believes and accepts without doubting any of it. I mean, the guy believes in fairy tales, and really weard one too. So all of his material becomes junk as it’s really hard to disect the good journalism from the bad yourself, without doing all the research yourself completely. He’s a selective journalist, not an investigative one. But it took a while to spot the twisted info he produces. I followed him for a while and though he delivered proper investigations until he made videos on something I specialized in and he made critical errors while stating it as fact. This is, in my opinion, one of the most dangerous fake news forms out there. It even fooled me, while I’m not easily fooled.

    • Tier 1 Build-A-Bear 🧸@lemmy.world
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      Have you seen the Kaufman documentary? IMO Carey is certifiably insane, he spat on someone and refused to apologize because it wasn’t him, it was Andy. He literally thought he was possessed, or at least acted like that’s what he thought

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        To be fair I think that method acting requires you to let go of your conceptual self, so I can see why Carey wouldn’t necessarily think it was him, if he was in character.

        To clarify: I don’t think there’s necessarily anything happening which is particularly interesting neurologically, but it is to say that I don’t think the act of spitting on someone is necessarily the asshole move. I think the asshole move is to commit yourself to staying in character. There’s something to be said for whether the commitment itself is worth it as an actor, and whether actions could be excused or forgiven, but I’m not here to make those points.

        Where I am here to say is that Carey’s choice to commit to staying in character makes him responsible for the impact and outcomes on other people.

        It makes me think of Jared Leto, who was probably just trying a bit too hard, and sent dead rats to his co-stars or something?

        I think that’s a case of trying to bootstrap method acting but was certainly not very convincing. I think there’s a case to be made that ‘Leto’ was responsible for that one. I’d call it “cosplaying at being obnoxious”. In this case, I’d say Leto is responsible for those actions.

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          I prefer Jims acting and the roles he’s chosen, but Adam seems like he’s probably a nicer person.

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            Its an Adam Sandler song reference…“At a medium pace”.

            Imo peak Sandler music. Everyone remembers Lunch Lady Land and Thanksgiving and Chanukah Song because they are (mostly) family friendly and get played on the radio sometimes.

            At A Medium Pace will not get played on legit terrestrial radio. It is probably not family appropriate, unless your family has a traveling act called “The Aristocrats”. That’s that raunchy, cringey Sandler we all know and love and sorta miss but we know he’s too old to really do it anymore and it wouldn’t be genuine but he’s still pretty good in romcom settings.

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                It’s a horrible movie that is

                1. not funny; ok that’s subjective but I really don’t think Adam Sandler is funny independently of his political views
                2. reducing crimes against humanity such as genocide, colonialism and apartheid to "people just need to get along“ which is a common liberal Zionist narrative to whitewash said crimes
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                  I certainly recognise the argument that the film was zionist propaganda. I’m just highlighting that Sandlers public zionism is quite liberal.

                  I’ll take a 1947 border zionist over a 2025 settler zionist any day.

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                    Yeah I get that but we just have to move past Zionism as a concept because the genocide is not a mishap of some bad apples, it’s the logical consequence of the Zionist ideology and any genocial ideology must simply be rejected as a whole.

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          Movies.

          But this is a very niche joke based Animals in HBO dedication an entire episode+ to litigating Sandler vs Carrey

          Basically trying to start a war in the comments

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      3 days ago

      Rich people are only socialist until someone tries to redistribute their wealth. It’s all an act.

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        Vaccine skepticism

        In 2009, Carrey wrote an article questioning the merits of vaccination for The Huffington Post.[149] With former partner Jenny McCarthy, Carrey led a “Green Our Vaccines” march in Washington, D.C., to advocate for the removal of “toxic substances” from children’s vaccines, out of a belief that children had received “too many vaccines, too soon, many of which are toxic”.[150] The rally was criticized by David Gorski, an American surgical oncologist on Science-Based Medicine blog, for being anti-vaccine and not “pro-safe vaccine”,[151] and by Steven Parker on the WebMD website for being “irresponsible”.[152]

        On July 1, 2015, after the signing of a new vaccination law, Carrey called California Governor Jerry Brown a “corporate fascist” who was “poisoning” children by enacting the vaccination requirements.[153] The law disallowed religious and philosophical reasons for exemption from vaccination. Carrey was criticized for being “ignorant when it comes to vaccines” by Arthur Caplan, head of the Division of Medical Ethics at New York University,[154] and by Jeffrey Kluger, senior writer at Time, who described his anti-vaccination statements as “angry, dense and immune to reason”.[155]

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Carrey

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          I like him enough as an actor to forgive the indiscretion if he had a change of heart. It seems there’s nothing past 2015, and I feel like he must have changed his opinion if he was silent about it during COVID.

          Maybe it’s just wishful thinking, I haven’t looked past the wiki.

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      I don’t like Jim at all, he’s a brain damaged hypocrite who thinks he’s the wisest motherfucker to ever live.

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        I think you may be reading him wrong. He keeps saying he isn’t him or anyone else. I think he thinks that he is just a guy, and Jim Carrey is his Batman. I kinda feel bad for the guy, as it seems that he has to keep feeding the machine so he can pay for whatever debts he’s trying to take care of.

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          “He keeps saying he isn’t him or anyone else.”

          The guy doesn’t want to take responsibility for the terrible things he’s done like driving Cathriona White to suicide or him being a massive hypocrite when he took action movie money then claimed that anyone who sees the movie is endorsing irl violence.

          He’s just another washed comedian from the 90’s who thinks his immense privilege is somehow profound.

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            A lot of people are upset that you’re poo-pooing on their childhood celebrity nostalgia. We’re gonna ask you to poo poo on somebody else’s nostalgia.

            Maybe something less charged like a celebrity from the Apprentice or Oprah?

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              My toxic trait is hating on sanctimonious celebrities who got famous before the internet era

              Really gets the gen x’s stirred up

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            Yeah, rewatching the documentary that Patrick CC made on him does highlight that a bit more than I remembered.

            Though it does go on to say that none of that evidence held up in court upon examination. I’m not going to say that totally clears Carrey, it doesn’t. It does seem he crashed hard, possibly intentionally on others parts, and has willingly stepped out of the spotlight since. He seems to have learned something.