Anyone notice what these “non-professional” degrees have in common?

Nursing
Physician assistants
Physical therapists
Audiologists
Architects
Accountants
Educators
Social workers

Here’s a hint, look at the two least obvious ones:

43% of new architects are women:

https://www.ncarb.org/blog/new-architects-are-increasingly-diverse-explore-updated-demographics-data

And 60% of all accountants:

https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/accountant/demographics/

This is clearly a plan to minimize career paths for women.

Edit What the heck, lets check the rest of them…

92% of audiologists are women:

https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/audiologist/demographics/

88.8% of nurses:

https://www.aacnnursing.org/news-data/fact-sheets/nursing-workforce-fact-sheet

75% of physician assistants:

https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/physician-assistant/demographics/

70% of physical therapists:

https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/physical-therapist/demographics/

77% of educators:

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/24/key-facts-about-public-school-teachers-in-the-u-s/

81% of social workers:

https://www.careerexplorer.com/careers/social-worker/demographics/

  • mgtzbos@lemmy.world
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    “It has also been reported that engineering, a business master’s, counseling or therapy, and speech pathology will not be considered “professional” either.“

    Well, AI can do the job of an engineer - they are just code monkeys. (sarcasm)

    But the one I like the best - business masters. Stick it to the CEOs and corporate execs. According to Sundar Pichai, AI can do that job too! Karma.

    When will we be able to exit the world of stupid?

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    Of course he thinks educators isn’t a professional degree. Fucker cannot read bigly! Even if we don’t have gud ejukaters nothing bad can happen, it can only good happen. Slavery and bible is frend.

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    It has also been reported that engineering, a business master’s, counseling or therapy, and speech pathology will not be considered “professional” either.

    Engineering is not professional? What a laughable sack of shit. We’re going to have a lot of work ahead to undo this damage.

    I look forward to improving our systems better than they’d previously been when trump and project 2025 showed up.

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      This is actually the one that I would agree with, if the difference is “professional” vs. “academic.” I certainly wouldn’t call a natural science degree professional, and if you’re in a research institution studying some form of engineering I’d probably put you in the same category. Just my experience/opinion though (and the rest of the exclusions are super stupid, I agree).

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        Engineers are literally required to licensed by the state as “Professional Engineers” in order to do their job (or at least they have to be supervised by someone who is), just like doctors and lawyers are. If that doesn’t count as professional, WTF does?!

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    Nursing is a no, but theology is a yes.

    They’re rolling back women’s lib, one step at a time. We had 50 years. We weren’t even there yet and they’re taking it away from us.

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        Men who can’t handle their own feelings or learn to define themselves as individuals separate from a woman. And don’t have the wherewithal to enroll in therapy to figure it out.

        That is MAGA. A reaction to women’s lib.

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        I have nothing against soul searching for personal betterment. That’s cool. It’s bizarre that it’s considered “professional” when an accountant, nurse practitioner, and social worker are not.

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          I think that a person who has decided to major in Theology has already passed the point where they’re soul searching for the most part. They’ve already decided to dedicate a lot of time to studying the thing they’ve already decided is the answer.

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    This is exactly what our mess of a health care system needs … fewer nurses. This is exactly what our uneducated voter population needs … fewer educators. The downward spiral never ends.

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    This is so out there. “We’re not interested in running things, we just want to offend people.” It takes neither a prophet nor a doomsayer to predict that this won’t end well.

    Students doing certain degrees may no longer receive the same amount of reimbursement for their studies now that the Department of Education is implementing various measures from President Donald Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill.

    One measure coming into action is that whether a degree is considered “professional” will influence how much reimbursement a student receives for their higher education.

    However, there are a number of what many see as “professional” degrees missing from the new list, such a nursing, which sparked significant concern among nurses and nursing organizations.

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    Here is what is funny for me. I worked in public education for almost 30 years. All that time the state of North Carolina did not let me join a union but I could join a professional organization like NCAE. So now I am not a professional so can teachers join a union now? And after reading the article I see that it will be shutting people out of getting these degrees because they have to take out loans for graduate school and post graduate work. So basically those who are in the middle of studies right now can expect to be left high and dry next fall.

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    Audiologists? What do they have against people being able to hear? This isn’t a full list, right? Are ENTs not considered professionals too? Tell me dentists are also excluded. Optometrist? Is it really just this one specific doctor? I mean nurses are important, but I’ll admit that society does not respect them, or other non doctor medical professionals, as much. The only word I could think of to describe them in the last sentence was professional.

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    43% of new architects are women

    I see you writing “57% are not women”, and I understand people choose their own path.

    This is clearly a plan to minimize career paths for women.

    At 43%? It seems like a plan to minimize THAT career path for all humans, with a mix that trends male slightly.

    Is 43% still less than half?

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      You picked the one with the lowest percent. What I think is bizarre is that in every single instance of the jobs listed professional licensure is necessary to practice. How can you need a degree and a professional license and the degree not be considered professional? It makes zero sense. It seems pretty clear to me that there is an ulterior motive, with the most reasonable view within the context of this administration and the disproportionate impact on women is that it’s calculated to punish women.

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      Read the link:

      “Over the past 5 years, gender representation has increased from 38% to 43% for women in the new architect population.”

      That occupation is a growth category for women.