A family in Maryland is trying to find a woman arrested by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), whose attorneys say is an American citizen but the government insists is Mexican.
Agents arrested Dulce Consuelo Diaz Morales, 22, on December 14 in Baltimore while she was heading home with her sister.
Despite her saying she was born in the U.S., she was held in ICE custody after failing to prove citizenship, the agency said. Attorneys rushed to get a court order keeping her in Maryland, but the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) moved her to Louisiana anyway.
Her family has now been told she has been deported, despite U.S. District Judge Brendan Hurson ruling Thursday that she could not be deported pending a hearing. Perez and colleague Victoria Slatten said they had not been able to confirm Diaz Morales’ whereabouts.
Even if there’s dispute about nationality, it’s fucking scary that they just make people disappear. Apparently nobody can tell where she is, it’s absolutely horrendous what the family and this women herself must be going through.
Righties really see this and don’t get why due process for all is necessary.
I don’t know if their thought process goes much further than “but she’s brown”
“she was held in ICE custody after failing to prove citizenship”
It’s not on the accused to prove innocence, it’s on DHS to prove guilt and “I said so” is not proof.
She was guilty of not being white. Not hard to prove and the power of summary judgement should be given to the ICE officers.
Looks like it is now, at least in that joke of a nation.
ICE has got to go. They filled the ranks with Jan 6ers and other white nationalists who can now live out their violent racist fantasies under the color of law.
An organization should not be able to write its own warrants. Everyone should go through the public justice system without exception. This would probably require a constitutional amendment.
I mean or we can slip into a fascist autocracy, in which case I’ll see you guys in the Patriotic Detention Centers for the Woke.
There need to be crowds of hundreds people with gas cans who go to these chuds houses and burn them the fuck down. Remove them from our communities. Excise the threat.
Whatever happens, it won’t be that.
You are not on my team if you think the solution is to attack other working class people. There are certainly ones that need to be brought to justice (see: Jan 6ers), but this slide into fascism has been financed and orchestrated by right-wing elites who have the billions of dollars to create effective propaganda.
MAGA voters are primarily driven by ignorance and intentionally misled via propaganda. This doesn’t clear them of all responsibility, I want to be clear.
However, the massive wave of anonymous billionaire funded propaganda following the Citizens United decision is the thing that has moved public opinion and that propaganda wasn’t created by ignorant people who were misled. It was created by very educated people who knew exactly what they were doing (watch The Great Hack documentary about Cambridge Analytica) and those people were funded by the same anonymous billionaires.
It isn’t the local racist that is at fault for orchestrated campaign of propaganda which has twisted public opinion into electing corrupt criminals. It’s the people who have billions of dollars and funded a tsunami of lies in order to buy access to the power of the Presidency.
Take your torches and pitchforks in that direction.
I’m not saying this should be the response to everyone who voted for him. But for anyone willing to kidnap and torture people for money, it’s open season.
See ya there Bud
or the trenches. 🫡
They won’t let her lawyers see her. That in itself is illegal. Judges need to grow some balls and start issuing arrest warrants for contempt of court for these dhs people who refuse to adhere to the findings of courts.
I’ve read about some Judges doing similar things to that, anything in their power to help, but that percentage is so small compared to ones who willingly go along with all this that it barely puts a dent in the whole. It’s fucking scary, and I say that as someone that’s not from/in the US and have not had the mental energy to really keep up to date with everything. What I do know is that if this was my curreny country of residence (immigrant or not, legal status irrelevant) and had the mental energy to keep up I’d only be even more scared. The only hope I can put in the table is that many Judges and people in any other kind of position of power want to do more than they can without loosing those positions, and the more people of any kind who fight back the more they will be able to stand their ground and help people in need. Every single grain of sand won builds up to help give power to others, both currently and in the future.
Well the fact that our justice system just convicted a judge for doing just that. It seems we are past the part were the courts can help. We either arm ourselves and protect our communities or be the next to be rounded up when they are done with everybody not white.
They move people immediately to new jurisdictions and don’t tell anybody they did it or where so that any habeas motions you file initially are to the wrong court. Then people have to find you before you’re deported.
It’s absolutely disgusting.
Absolutely agree. They have to be held accountable otherwise, what a judge says is meaningless.
And this is why we had this thing called “due process.”
I’ve seen so many racists say that because they “need” to deport 50 million immigrants, due process just isn’t feasible if we are to “save our country”.
The only response to anyone saying anything about due process not being necessary is that you are currently calling ice on them for being an illegal immigrant. And when they complain that they are a citizen, you say, “sorry no due process for illegal scum.”
Well, the other option is called “crimes against humanity.” The racists need to make their choice.
“We need to suspend the law to save the
laworderfew privileges I have left”
Sorry due process is only available to white Americans who happen to be parasite billionaires.
Her family has now been told she has been deported, despite U.S. District Judge Brendan Hurson ruling Thursday that she could not be deported pending a hearing.
Every single person who was involved in defying the judges order should be prosecuted and imprisoned for kidnapping, and more. “Mistakes” like this should carry severe, harsh punishment. Maybe when MAGA operatives start getting sentenced to 25 years to Life, they’ll pause and consider the consequences of their actions.
Make them then. The whole world is watching. Your government has done more atrocious awful shit than this, over the decades, with pride, without consequences.
Prove us wrong. I dare you.
Claiming they’ll get the “Nuremberg treatment”, guillotines or jail time online does jack shit and is starting to look like “old man screams at the clouds” meme.
If anything is going to change, that’s down to those of us who are actually under the jackboot. You’re not in the US. What the hell good is taunting by a non-participant? To give yourself a false sense of superiority?
We’ve got elections next year that will almost certainly start some changes.
Right? It’s insane how many laws and judges they break/ignore.
Consequences ASAP
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Tons of people who “oppose” ice/SS kidnappings: “nooooooo we aren’t there yet we can’t do voilent things in response to systemic ongoing violence perpetrated by the government noooooooooo”
“Concerning nonviolence: It is criminal to teach a man not to defend himself, when he is the constant victim of brutal attacks.”
-Malcolm X
Same shit, different day.
Oh look, my comment got removed for trying to state reality.
That’s what she gets for being brown, this is really on her
My go-to question when people defend this shit is to ask them to prove to me they’re a citizen on the spot.
Not many people even have a passport, much less carry one at all times.
its always right wing conservatives saying this,.
And they don’t say it to other white people.
And even if they can, it doesn’t matter as there are reports of ICE agents simply claiming the documents are fake and taking them away anyway.
Pro Tip: for an extra $30, you can get a Passport Card in addition to your passport. It is only valid as a travel document for land and sea travel within North America, but has the same proof of citizenship as a passport book. Everyone who is in the wrong half of the “Peter Griffin in a Fez” scale should carry it on their person at all times.
Yes, the ICE agent will say it’s fake, and confiscate it, but at least you can keep your passport book in a safe place for your family to bring to the detention center to try and get you out.
the problem is that people often dont carry around that, and more than likely they have expired passport. which is quite difficult to get if havnt renewed in more than 10 years. i dont know why they make the process to get a passport so convoluted.
The process to get your first passport is quite a chore, because you need your original citizenship documents, like that birth certificate with the raised seal, or your original naturalization papers. If you don’t have that you need to go to whatever authority made out your documentation first and request it, which might take a while (and more ID).
But once you have that, renewing it is much easier, because that expired passport can be still be accepted as proof of citizenship, even for some time after expiration. I’ve been able to renew mine online. I just have to fill out the form, send them a fresh picture, and pay the fee.
Yeah - I used to carry one. I’m white as a ghost, but I used to drive to Mexico often enough it was worth not having to replace my passport book because it was getting stamped too often.
Do they stamp something to supplement the card? Is that not an option with the passport book?
That card doesn’t have to be stamped at all. But it only works on land and sea crossing within North America. So unless you’re on a cruise or driving to Mexico or Canada, you still need the book with the stamps.
Right, I understand the difference in which the book is required and the card is insufficient. I’m just confused on how the card saved your book. You said they were stamping the book when you made land crossings. Instead, to save your book, you brought the card, which they obviously couldn’t stamp. So what did they do instead? Issue no stamps at all? Stamp something else? Whatever they did instead, could that alternative not also be applied to the book? I’ve only ever used my book by plane, so I don’t know what the alternatives are
Canada and Mexico share their data bases with us. I imagine the visa is provided electronically at PoE
If you have the card there’s no stamping.
It just makes me wonder why they bother stamping the book then if they don’t stamp anything supplemental with the card.
Thanks for the info. I’m on the okay side, but my wife and kids are not. A redundancy of documentation is the way to go. I just hope it matters.
The whole thing is about scaring people into self-deporting. They’re also coming after people like your family with the SCOTUS decision on the 14th amendment that’ll drop this summer. If you want to stay together as a unit, looking at moving back to her home nation is the only actual guarantee at this stage. Sorry, brother… this shit is fucked.
Thanks, bud. Luckily citizenship isn’t the issue (sorry, I meant naturalization for others, not for us), but profiling is still a problem. My wife was adopted by naturalized citizens and I’m a US citizen born abroad. We should be okay under normal circumstances. I’m just worried about harassment by ICE and DHS.
My wife was adopted by naturalized citizens
Relevent: Korean Adoptees that got deported because their stupid adoptive parents didn’t file paperworks.
Prior to the passage of the Child Citizenship Act of 2000, the adoptive parents of adoptees had to file for their child to naturalize before the age of 16. Many parents were unaware of this requirement, assuming that their adopted children automatically derived citizenship from them, and therefore did not apply. The Child Citizenship Act sought to remedy this issue by extending citizenship to all international adoptees who were under 18 at the time that the bill was passed, but did not apply retroactively.
Under the Child Citizenship Act, intercountry adopted children do not qualify for acquired citizenship through their adoptive parents if they were 18 years or older on February 27, 2001, the effective date of the act. If these adoptees never naturalized while they were children, they did not become United States citizens and remain at risk for deportation unless they naturalized later as adults.
Off-topic - A passport card does not have signature. It cannot be used identification in some circumstances.
The place i work requires ID from most people coming in. A signature is required most of the time.
The place you work is refusing legal government-issued ID.
REAL ID requires proof of citizenship and therefore should be accepted as proof, but these ICE goons aren’t trained and/or don’t care to recognize ID. I have a passport and have it on my iPhone as Digital ID, and I guarantee no one at ICE is equipped with a reader or knows what it is. If I’m ever grabbed by ICE, I expect the only proof that will matter is my neutral American accent.
Real ID does not require proof of citizenship, just proof of legal residence. Digital passport is also not sufficient for law enforcement, just for verification for flights and some commercial establishments.
To get mine it required a birth certificate, expiring license or passport, social security, and proof of address.
My wife is an immigrant. She got a real ID. Brought in her green card for proof of identity.
My bad. I was thinking of my requirements.
You’re good just clarifying
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“I used to work for DHS. I have a lot of respect for the agency. I do not hate the government. I do not hate the agency. I have been very frustrated with them this week,” Slatten told Newsweek. “Something that I thought would be cleared up in a matter of hours, naively… This is evidence that should have been enough on its face to let her go. It is very confusing to me why it’s been such a struggle.”
Well you failed to account that it’s composed almost entirely of racists implementing a racist agenda for the fascist administration. Maybe you should hate it more.
Just look at those eyes, can’t you see she surely is a super dangerous criminal! A felon, a murderer and rapist, oops, wait, that’s Donald Trump’s description.
That’s why CBS pulled that stupid 60 minutes episode. After getting the criminal records from all 50 states, ICE, and the countries they were from, they claimed 97% of the people deported to El Salvador had never committed a violent crime. Something like half had never committed any crime. And being that immigration is a civil dispute, not a criminal one, it means all those people who were locked up and treated that were infact not criminals at all.
It’s almost as if we have fucking documentation they could seek out to prove it…
For an administration obsessed with documentation for voting, you’d think they would check for documentation of being born here.
Fucking fascist cunts…
If she was deported why hasn’t her family heard from her? Wherever she is it’s not good.
That’d be nice, but most of these fascist fuckers don’t even believe in birthright citizenship
European here, I don’t think that our primitive ways allow us to understand American culture. Could they introduce a mechanism by which these things can be assessed impartially and with evidence to discuss? They could call it “Due Process”, or similar?
“An ICE officer may ignore evidence of American citizenship—including a birth certificate—if the app says the person is an alien,” said the ranking member of the House Homeland Security Committee.
I see. So “The
internetapp is never wrong” is policy.Computer says no.
Why anyone still cares what the DHS has to say anymore is beyond me.
