An Oklahoma man who was doing target practice in his backyard on Christmas is believed to have shot and killed an elderly woman a few blocks from his home, authorities said.
Cody Wayne Adams, 33, has been charged with first-degree manslaughter in connection with the deadly shooting, court filings show.
The victim was on a covered front porch with family members at a residence in Comanche when she was shot Thursday afternoon, according to the probable cause affidavit. She was holding a baby in her left arm while seated on a love seat when she was struck in her right upper arm, according to the affidavit. The bullet then entered her chest cavity, it said.
Dude was shooting without a backstop, fucking idiot…
We have a place literally designed for target practice, it’s called the “shooting range”. Ever heard of it ?
Even in very gun friendly areas ranges are always few, far between and often with years long wait lists for membership. Private property is often the only option, but it needs to be done safely. It sounds like every one of his neighbors had backstops for their home ranges, this dude was just a moron.
Just a Real Murkan standing his ground, puh-raise JEE-zuz-ah!
The ONLY way, and I mean LITERALLY Only Way, to have Prevented this is if SHE shot him FIRST!
-People trying to Denaturalize US Citizens!
The problem here aren’t the guns or what they can do, but how people think, or rather do not think. Think about that… thank you
Guns are tools. You give a sledge hammer to an idiot and they will eventually hurt themselves and others.
Ban all lead bullets. Ban all semi-auto. Ban all pistols, revolvers, handguns. Nothing but black powder, or bolt action rifle.
Yes because those are less lethal. Under no pretense. We need proper education of firearm safety and usage like we need better education of car safesty and usage.
Prohibition never works
The dumbfuck Adams is one of many reasons why the USA needs stricter gun control. I wonder if the worthless POS is a Charlie Kirk supporter.
“I’m a responsible gun owner, i have owned guns since the dawn of light” - Proceeds to 360 no-scope the neighbor.
Well, no, the average gun owner in USA is not a responsible gun owner.
The average gun owner is responsible, it’s all these super owners who skew the stats. The average gun owner owns one pistol that’s locked away in a case or safe and only sees the light of day when it’s opened at the range.
Then there are super owners who skew the results and have a half dozen guns and shoot them off at their property with no bullet berm or any actual range safety practices. They keep their guns on their bedside table, by the door, etc, always loaded with the excuse that it would take too long to deal with safety practices if there is an intruder.
These are the people you hear about in the news. The more guns the less safe in my experience.
In the eyes of an American perhaps, sure, but if you come from a civilized place on the world, well simply no…and we still are allowed to own guns, its simply not handed out like candy.
There’s a bullet hole in the flashing under my second floor gutters, facing the street. Doesn’t look like it came from nearby, like it’s not slanted down toward the street or anything. No idea how long it’s been there, but I found it a few years ago when cleaning the gutters. Bullet might still be lodged in there.
It’s genuinely wild to me that people just fire this shit off willy-nilly.
Coworker of mine was shot through her apartment floor (accidental discharge). She almost died.
My wife worked with someone that didn’t know that bullets come down after you shoot them in the air. People are fucking stupid.
That which goes up…despawns?
I think she just thought it went to space. She’s not the brightest crayon.
It’s genuinely wild to me that Americans let just anyone have the capability to do that.
I agree, frankly. I am expert qualified (former military), and inherited firearms when my mom died. I don’t have any firearms currently, as I sold those off (very very old farm weapons; we were on a farmette) nor do I ever intend to get more. All that training, and I’m still not comfortable owning something that is designed specifically to kill something.
That is to say you can hypothetically do nothing, and still end up with firearms, which is a really big problem. Zero background check on inheritance…
We’re in desperate need of just education in the USA on many facets, including firearms. We don’t have safety courses for them and barely have anything for cars. Both are very dangerous is used improperly.
If you aren’t absolutely chicken shit it isn’t a problem. Idk I think u should have to get a licence to own a firearm, maybe if you can’t figure out bullet-go-far you can’t fucking own a gun
The guy from this post clearly wasn’t chicken-shit about guns.
While in military school after boot camp, I was stuck in the barracks because our Chief was extremely strict about letting us use our evening time how we’d like. While mopping the same spot for the 4th hour, I get a call from my wife advising that she’s really scared. A gun had just discharged from the neighbors house, went through our wall, got lodged in our dresser about 2” from my 1.5 year old daughter’s leg. I went to my chief and other instructors, asking to be let out so I can comfort my family. They said no, there’s nothing I can do if I leave and my family can drive to a motel if they feel unsafe.
You’re expecting military people not to be insane about guns?
Honestly, I know you’re making a joke but I habe 17 years in Enlisted and if a troop came to me with this story and said “My family is scared” Id be like “Yeah that makes sense go the fuck home”.
But what if war were declared?
Maybe those people fell off of the apathy tree.
Yup, that’s why if you’re going to practice, do so on a range and always consider: what the hell is BEHIND/AROUND my target?
JFC for a nation as obsessed with firearms as the United States, the level of firearms safety knowledge is shockingly low.
People in my neck of the woods talk about fire arms the way I talk about video games or TV shows. They sound like recreation rather than self defense. I don’t know if knowledge is the only factor; a sense of seriousness about firearms seems to be lacking.
Yep people shoot around where I live on their own 2 acre plot of land. Always know what’s behind your target “there are trees” and what’s behind those trees Joe?
There’s a house in an adjacent neighborhood that occasionally fires guns to a degree that it sounds like a gun battle is taking place. This story will make me wonder about their gun safety.
To be fair if guns were legal in my area I’d totally have one for fun. They look like a ton of fun. Probably best I’m not allowed one
Lol, ranges aren’t necessarily any better. Hopefully they have someone enforcing safety rules, but there are a great deal of them that are in suburban areas, and even the rural ones can be within striking range of homes.
In civilized parts of the world, it is illegal to discharge a firearm in an urban area or within X metres of an occupied building etc.
In the USA people shoot in their suburban backyard.
This sounds like it might be a more rural area since other neighbors seem to have backstops which isn’t illegal.
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For what it’s worth, it’s illegal in the USA too. Obviously that didn’t stop this moron.
Well there’s the problem: Americans don’t understand meters.
You may not discharge a firearm within 53 bald eagles of anyone else’s stand-your-ground area.
Is that when they are packed together pinguïn style, or wingspan to wingspan?
Beak to tail, traditionally.
I can’t think of a place I’ve lived where discharge of firearms within city limits was not illegal. This moron probably didn’t care.
If only that baby were armed, it could have returned fire and everything would have been okay. More guns is the solution!
It’s insane to me how many people think that taking guns away will actually increase the violence… like the people that would normally shoot up a place would suddenly become experts at building bombs and take out WAY more people… when the reality is that those people would probably be more likely to blow themselves up trying to build a bomb… guns are so simple to kill with, a toddler could do it. Building a bomb or something equivalent is much harder than pulling a trigger.
Most school shooters obtained their guns from family members. Its literally a crisis enabled by easy access to weapons.
The shear amount of accidental shootings combined with the amount of violence that really wouldn’t occur without easy access to guns is the main reason I’ll never own one. A gun is an implement of death. It is designed for one thing only, to most effectively rip a piece of metal through a body in a deadly manner. Any situation that a gun is introduced to becomes a potentially deadly situation. I’ve heard it suggested to apply the concept of Checkovs Gun to real life, that once someone pulls out a gun even as a “hey check out my cool new gun!” assume it will be fired by the end of the scene and leave before you can find yourself a part of that ending.
I also fully recognize that as a middle class white male, my safety is about as guaranteed by society as it can get. Many people are not so lucky and may very well be on their own when it comes to personal safety. I respect that, but I beg all firearm owners to please take every possible precaution. Regularly take self defense trainings, make sure that your firearm is not going to just be turned on you, make sure that you’re legally clear in defending yourself with it, and be absolutely certain that it is appropriately locked and protected from anyone else in your household or who enters your dwelling from taking it. Also have a plan should your own mental health take a downturn. Have a trusted individual who can convince you to sell your firearm or otherwise ensure you don’t have access to it until your mental state improves sufficiently. By owning a firearm understand you are owning a potential for death, appreciate that gravity and take every precaution necessary to minimize that potential
Name and shame em
If the polive was actually useful, then maybe getting rid of guns could be a good thing.
But as an Asian American. I know about the Korean Americans during LA Riots who had to protect their stores by themselves because the authorities didn’t give a shit.
Asian Diaspora are one of the most vulnerable groups. Because a lot of us have successful bussinesses and racists are jealous and like to target us.
So I’d prefer well regulated militias than police. Especially in the context of America where cops are horrible.
The well regulated militia is now ICE. Thanks for your attention to this matter.
Ice is a government policing agency following federal orders. Not sure if I would call them “well regulated” or a militia. They’re just the strong arm of authoritarianism, a special police force. Hell really its just the same old police force with new directives.
I think perhaps you’re missing the point. There is no well-regulated militia; the National Guard is supposed to be that entity.
As it stands, there is only ICE at the moment and we can all see their atrocities.
Some states do have active Militias last time I checked, and of course there are some weird fringe militias. ICE has government leadership and pay checks, they are the government.
The National Guard is a state organization that can be LEGALLY activated at a federal level.
Especially since we have a model of what that society looks like, with places like Japan and great britain, most of Europe etc. They de-escalate to knife crime picking up the majority.
vehicle ramming attacks are constantly increasing. people who want to kill will find a way to kill with whatever tools they have available.
I’d choose you trying to run me down with a vehicle over shooting at me with an AR15 any day of the week.
Well I think most of the population would think guns. Judging by how we use firing squads for capital punishment and not Dodge Rams. You might be able to sell this idea to the prison/auto industries. Have you considered consulting or lobbying?
Then perhaps we should not let those people possess guns. Or vehicles , now that I think of it.
Perhaps give them no weapons. Yes, yes, that’s it. Take weapons away from crazy people. Hey! I got it! Let’s get them into a database so we can see if they have murderous tendencies. Perhaps a test of some sort in order to own any weapons.
What do you think?
Just gonna politely point out that America is living under extreme corruption and tyranny right now, and the 2nd amendment aint doing shit to help with that problem. Sure gets of innocent citizens killed, though.
Just like any expected conflict ever, the 2nd amendment caused an arms race - and the govt is far, far more heavily armed than the people.
And here I am at 42 considering a pistol for the first time, to protect against other crazy citizens.
Statistically speaking, buying that handgun is going to dramatically increase your odds of dying by firearm.
Buying a gun does make you more suicidal, as we can see the rise in suicides after buying a gun
Not sure who’s downvoting this but the claim is verifiable.
Here’s a John Hopkins report from 2023: https://publichealth.jhu.edu/center-for-gun-violence-solutions/data/annual-gun-violence-data
What I think is the most interesting, and a fact I learned taking a firearms safety course here in Canada, is that the highest risk remains suicide.
From the report: Gun suicides have accounted for the majority of all gun deaths each year since 1995.
I personally think suicide is my right. Also when someone says that they want a gun to protect themselves… and someone states that it’s more likely to result in a gun death, but forgets to mention the suicide part… it’s disingenuous and that’s probably why the downvotes. Say the whole statistic. Maybe it really is a mental health crisis and not a gun problem. The biggest danger to a gun owner is themself. It gives you the power to end your life at your leisure which is really bad… because you haven’t created enough shareholder value or paid enough taxes yet. How can you consider buying a gun to end your life when it life itself is so fucking magical ya know?
Either way Smith and Wesson issues my insurance policy. This is America people.
Kind of feel like we’re talking past each other.
Suicide is your right. No qualms with that. I support thoughtful assisted dying and no one can stop you from taking your own life if you are determined to do so.
But the comment mentioning a dramatically increased probability of death by firearm isn’t disingenuous. They were answering someone talking about acquiring a firearm to protect themselves from others. I think it’s reasonable to remind anyone considering a firearm for self protection to understand they’re more likely to die by firearm as a result of that choice no matter how the death occurs. Even if suicide is the bulk of gun deaths it’s not the only cause - and so while being even more fully informed is helpful, I don’t agree that the warning is misleading in any way, I’d argue it remains just as factual.
It also doesn’t have to be either or: it can be both a mental health crisis and a gun crisis.
I’m also not unilaterally anti-firearm; I enjoy long distance marksmanship and hand loading precision cartridges quite a bit. That said, I understand the choices I’m making and the risks that come with them; taking every precaution I can to protect those around me from harm.
Totally agree with you, I mostly take quarrel with OP you were replying to. Yes owning a gun makes you much more likely to die in a gun incident. It opens to door to so many preventable tragedies in your own home. I just feel like that statistic demands the explanation that this includes people who bought a gun with the intention of suicide. It includes all the people who bought a gun with intention to resolve a conflict. It includes the biggest most negligent idiots you know, who will probably be shot by their children in a “tragic” accident. If you’re a law abiding, risk mitigating person scared of ICE showing up at your door… and you’d like a fire arm because that feels tyrannical, I’m gonna say you’re gonna be a wee bit better off than the statistic suggests.
IKYK, sounds like we have similar views on firearms in America. Bit of a quagmire innit. Hate watching it be discussed without nuance.
Having a gun can turn that fleeting ideation into a permanent decision real quick.
Gun is probably the easiest cheapest way to access assisted suicide in the USA. That not-so-fleeting ideation probably drives a lot of people to the local Walmart to get a gun since its easier than getting a doctors appointment.
I know, probably partly because if you intend to use it, you’re more likely to get shot instead, or shoot yourself.That’s why it’s only a consideration, but also, domestic tensions are…less than ideal.
But I have no kids, I’d take lessons and practice first, and I’d never leave ammo loaded. I do not want a gun in my home. I’m fine keeping them animated and fired with a gamepad.
And I’d like to think in the very unlikely situation I’d need it, I wouldn’t, like, engage, like an idiot.
Honestly if you do end up getting a firearm, you should keep it loaded. Once you do your safety training, you will be more confident. If you ever have children in your home, please take appropriate security precautions.
Really no reason to keep it loaded at all times in your home. You keep a magazine loaded with the firm arm and hopefully you never have to chamber a round. Once you do your safety training you will be more engaged with risk mitigation, precautions, and laws. Safety training is mostly how to not-shoot(yourself and others). Knowledge and practice will bring confidence and confidence is knowing that you don’t need a loaded gun hiding around the house. Most people are like kids and may accidentally shoot you with your loaded fire arm they found lying around.
The common modern interpretation of the 2nd amendment being that gun sales and ownership must be almost completely unregulated is bullshit and not at all the way it was intended to be interpreted. It was supposed to protect the right of people to form and maintain local militias independent from the federal government, hence the “well-regulated militia” wording. The idea was that if local governments maintained their own militias consisting of private citizens it would create a collective military force capable of keeping the federal army in check. The modern emphasis on individual gun ownership with no organization has clearly not served this purpose.
Who is protecting your democracy?
Well obviously Dale, the overweight guy who wants nothing more than owing guns and Nazis memorabilia
System works as designed. The second amendment fuckwits never cared about freedom and democracy at all.
Except the freedom to have their murdertoys and power fantasies.
Disagree, arms can absolutely be used to resist tyranny. Look at any resitance movement in history. They were effective. French resistance, Viet Cong, Taliban, etc.
Each of these were far out gunned, but they won. In the case of the French resistance is probably more accurate to say they were effective then the allies showed up, but still.
There’s more of a lack of willingness to rebel in the US. Power works, people have food, and the largest demographic of the population isn’t being shipped off by ICE.
Did you know that many 20th century historians argue that the French resistance was irrelevant to the outcome of the occupation? The Tienanmen Square protesters had captured stockpiles of small arms, how’d that go? There is no debate about the Black Panthers, Weather Underground, or any other left movement willing to do violence. They were all crushed by the US Government. I’m sorry to report, but Hampton was wrong: you can kill a revolution by killing revolutionaries.
If you’re interested in history, I’d point out that successful revolutions are often accompanied by military defectors. The military guys will bring the guns. (and the ability to actually fight, unlike the average GI Jabroni)
Are you saying the black panthers did not use guns to effectively further their goals? I’d agrgue they were so effective, like those poor Chinese people, they had to be completely annihilated by the powers that be, but their influence outlived their lives and organizations. Both movements had tangible results and still inspire people to this day. FFS you’re talking about them right now.
The Tienanmen Square protesters had captured stockpiles of small arms, how’d that go?
A small force occupying an urban square will not work. And was not the methods used by any group I mentioned. Yes if you sit in one spot superior numbers and technology always win.
Which is why every example I gave you didn’t do that. Tactics do matter. Some revolutions succeed some do not. Either way you need guns
The Bolsheviks are a good example. They started the revolution with the workers and peasants, because that’s the only way to start a revolution, but when the government turns the military on its own people they could then recruit them to the revolution.
its usually the people on the right that are touting the 2nd admen, and they are okay with the faciscm.
Oh there are plenty of lefty gun-brains, preparing for either the revolution or wanting to protect against a fascist government.
They’re all gravely mistaken when they think that gun ownership does anything except increasing statistics for gun deaths and police shootings.
Im going to provide a brilliant revelation for you. It’s okay to have contingency plans and to try to mitigate risk. The fascist government is here. The desire to protect yourself from it may manifest itself in many forms depending on where you are from and how you were raised. Your thoughts on your civic duty, your duty to your family and community, and your personal safety may just be worth looking into! Now that the authoritarians are in charge you actually think that preparing for that event was a bad idea? Still? Can we check back in on this sentiment in another year please. lol, lmao even.
Law enforcement investigating the shooting canvassed several residences to the north of the deadly shooting and found that all but one – Adams’ – had “suitable shooting backstops or firing locations,” according to the affidavit.
So… pretty much everyone in the area had a shooting range except the accused?
Yeah, this happened literally 4 houses down from me. We all shoot guns, but we have targets, and those that dont go down to the bridge and fire into the creek bank. This whole thing is because he was lazy/stupid.
Just checking, you go to the stream and shot lead bullets it? That then infiltrates the watershed. So there’s a lead poisoning problem in your area?
This happens everywhere. The VFW in the next town over has a “turkey shoot” where they shoot bird shot over a river at a pavilion with targets on the side. All that bird shot just goes straight into the river. The VFW is in the center of town, so it’s not like it’s ever been a secret.
Indeed, I would not drink their well water. It’s fucked.
A “backstop” is not a shooting range…
It’s usually just a pile of dirt.
It’s wild for a bunch of people in a neighborhood to all be doing this, because even if the first couple are kind of safe about it, every idiot starts thinking jt’s safe to just shoot at a can or anything. All they know is they hear gunshots
Sounds like a terrible neighbourhood to live in, shots going off from everyone all the time
I used to play a game with friends in Tacoma, WA, USA where we would sit outside at night and guess what the caliber was when we heard gunfire every 5 or so minutes.
That’s so painfully American
I’m picturing celebratory gunfire into the air every weekend.
My parents have a place to shoot in their yard. It’s a stack of old railroad ties four deep, two wide and ten tall with dirt piled up around the back. There is an empty field for over a mile behind that. I can’t imagine using it if anyone was any closer.
Under the right conditions, the NATO 5.56 x 45 mm can travel u to 3600 meters (4,000 yards). If one round, for some reason is shot above the berm, one mile is not enough. It does not take much to fuck up.
At least there is a berm, unlike the guy from the article.
Rent must be hella cheap
This is Oklahoma.
Exactly. Why didn’t he have a shooting range too?
Apparently he did, just lacking the important part of a fucking backstop.
Backstop is not sufficient. You will miss it eventually. Should be a backstop and no one living behind it
Honestly anything less than a 15’ berm or reinforced wall should not be a permissible firing location in a residential area. And I still wouldn’t put it past people to miss.
Not that we really need personal firing ranges in everyone’s backyard.
Ricochets and unintended discharges happen at ranges all the time.
infamous for the bombing incident.
And this is why we shouldn’t just let every fuckhead idiot have a gun.
Exactly! I don’t want to take away your guns. I want fuckheads like these to not be able to buy them in the first place.
Gun owner here. The bar to owning a gun is so ridiculously stupid and easy. Anyone who says otherwise is stupid.
It’s not difficult at all.
Fully agree and I’m multiple gun owner. In my home, the firearms and ammunition are stored separately and nothing is loaded.
Gun ownership should come with a psych test and some kind of basic system for ensuring people understand the gravity of the device they are purchasing at minimum. As it stands, I can walk into a pawn shop a few blocks away and have a weapon in almost no time, and I’m all kinds of fucked up.
Nope, every time this country has put in some kind of “test” to access a right it’s ultimately used by racists to disenfranchise people of color and anyone else they find undesirable.
Maybe a mandatory class that’s simple based on attendance could work, but anything that requires someone making a subjective call will be abused
Subjective calls (“may-issue”) have already been determined unconstitutional by SCOTUS (Bruen).
Bullshit. I’m tired of assholes using racism as an excuse to not put controls in place.
It’s just another type of godwinning a conversation. Just claim racists abused it once!
Yes because as we can clearly see there are no racists in power abusing the system for their racist agendas…
