wait till we start putting chalk back in the milk for color
“Producing raw milk takes careful planning from a facility and infrastructure standpoint,” the farm said in a statement Jan. 29. “Unfortunately, we learned this after the fact.”
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I thought this was just your humorously sarcastic take on the mindset of the people in the article. Then I read the article, and discovered it’s a verbatim quote directly from the article. There’s not enough room on my face for all of the palms this deserves.
I swear I will never understand this level of stupid. Like the idea of raw milk isn’t gross enough you’re going to feed that to your NEWBORN?!? Ugh.
Did they see how fucking dirty are the cows in a farm? They literally let them rest in the shit. And then they want to get all that shit raw and unfiltered in their mouths??
See what happens when you’re naive and uneducated? Whoever thought it would be a good idea to drink unpasteurized milk? Yuck.
My sister. The same person who insists “I won’t allow chemicals in my home”. I asked her if Nitrogen was allowed on her lawn (ya know, from rain) and she exploded.
Oh one of those. Ask her what she thinks about dihydrogen monoxide.
Chemicals in food = ✋ 🤚
Pathogens in food = 👉 👉
I love the “no chemical” bullshit. Like, my siblings in baphomet, you ARE chemicals!
“You know what I mean!”
An actual response I got years ago when I made a similar point.
“No, actually, I don’t know what you mean, and I’m fairly certain that you don’t either.”
That’s not a very cash money response.
Man, do I have a sibling I didn’t know about? Sounds just like my sister too!
Whoever thought it would be a good idea to drink unpasteurized milk?
The same people who think it’s a good idea to have healthy cows in healthy environments and use a clean milk extraction processes.
That must be why so many of them are getting violently ill. 🤭
Pic looks like a Pink Floyd cover.
Atom Heart Mother
There’s currently an e-coli outbreak in Idaho due to raw milk. 9 sick, 2 of them children.
At least it’s not contagious, I guess… It’s the measles and polio coming back that’s gonna really fuck us.
Unfortunately stupidity is contagious. For example people convincing each other that drinking raw milk is a good idea.
What it they heat the milk to a high but not boiling temperature to kill the ecoli bacteria?
Witchcraft! We found the witch!
If that’s what God wanted, he would have made cows much hotter!
Hotter? Aren’t they sexy enough for you ?
Heat my Jesus juice? That’s leftist.
What next, cook chicken?
Jesus juice was Judas’ favorite in the Gospel of Judas.
🎵 sippin on Jesus juice 🎶
Well, that pisses off God and makes libruls happy. Can’t do it.
It’s like defying god’s will to upset his plans like that, sort of like giving health care to poor people. /s
Sounds like the problem is solving itself.
Kids dying is bad. Just my opinion.
They will just grow up to be hate filled idiots like their ancestors.
Speaking as a leftist who managed to survive their fucked up version of a childhood, maybe be a little more concerned when kids are involved. Just speaking from very personal experience.
So your stance is to let innocent kids die? Bold.
The fuck can we do about it? The morons have taken over and are killing their own kids. All there is left to do about it is laugh.
I guess that’s just not me.
True.
You don’t have to agree, I’m not a cop.
Okay, but if you were you’d have to tell us. It’s the rules.
That is not now, nor has it ever been true that cops have to tell you they are cops. They can and do lie. In fact they almost always lie, it’s quicker to describe when they speak truth. Plus they can use agents that aren’t directly cops but amount to the same thing. Many agents are paid, some get a cut of any seized assets and make millions even.
So, homogenization? I could take it or leave it. But pasteurization? Literally no reason to reject it, outside of extremely niche recipes that you aren’t making. Going at raw cow titty juice seems absurdly stupid.
Idk man , putting your mouth on a titty doesn’t sound bad.
It’s one thing to drink raw milk if it’s on your farm and you are sure the animal is clean. Or other rural in person settings, still some risk there I’m sure idk how ecoli even works exactly.
But when you are buying raw milk from like facebook marketplace, and you have groups capitalizing on the raw milk movement to overcharge people for it, you are getting that raw milk from places you cannot trust to be clean.
Lots of great cheeses made with raw milk, though I assume making cheese from it is somehow safer than consuming the raw milk itself.
Somewhat safer. Step one of making cheese is usually heating up the milk, so that can kill things on its own, then you are going to mix in an acid to get it to curdle probably lemon juice or something. Salt is often added as well. Once you’ve separated the curds and the whey, you end up having to age the cheese, and there are requirements for aging to ensure the possible bad bacteria sits with the salt for a while, say a couple months. It limits or gets rid of most of the possibility of things like salmonella growing in it. Soft cheeses I hear are more at risk than hard cheeses when it comes to raw milk. (More air I assume, less compact to the salt)
Depends. Cheeses that get soft by fermentation with fungi are safe.
You left out adding yeast, which is the whole process. So you curdle, acid salt add maybe, then add yeast and let sit for months I presume?
Once the yeast process a food it’s a lot harder for other bacteria to use it as well, even when there are nutrients left in it, it appears to me as an amateur brewer of different alcohols and a few kombucha type drinks.
Yeah, I forgot to add it, but it’s not always needed. Rennet is used in things like mottz, but even then unless I am trying to make something I’ll serve to others I’m probably going to skip the rennet and just use an acid, I’ve even used salad dressings to start the curdling. I’m not very conventional when it comes to cooking. A “fuck it, this should work out interesting” is all to often my go to.
On a side note though, not using the rennet works well if your trying to make a cheese dip, as it isn’t usually as firm.
Rennet is a type of yeast stuff then? The name is familiar, never got into cheese specifically.
I often have that fuck it should work out, except for me it often does not work out well.
You are speaking to the proud owner of at least 15 gallons of apple cider vinegar because I was like, ah it’s fine, naturally fermenting, no need to pasteurize it and then innoculate it with yeast.
Under 5% alcohol the mother of vinegar can get in and convert the alcohol to yeast. Over 5 the alcohol kills the vinegar. I did have 2 five gallon batches that did ferment normal.
I love vinegar, I throw vegetables in the buckets of vinegar, so I will use it, eventually. I need to find some other uses for it maybe.
Yeah the rennet is some kind of enzyme. Apple cider vinegar sounds great. I saw a 75% off organic honey a few months ago coming from Kroger’s distribution hub. So I got like 30 pounds of it. I made about 20 pounds of it into mead using champagne yeast and random fruits that were in season. Always fun to have simple idle projects sitting in the background. Gives you something to look forward too.
I do maple syrup, still kind of a mickey mouse operation no pump for a vacume yet so I am not competitive money wise, but I use off tasting syrup, and washings from bottling the syrup, to make a maple wine. Some of it is really good, some also turns into vinegar, I’ve way way too much vinegar, but it’s sort of like mead the maple wine, and gets a wide range of complex flavors all from the same ingredients, just water and syrup/concentrated sap and yeast, albeit different strains, which I’ve had trouble finding strains that work well. I’ve low temperatures so in season so that’s a factor, 50 degree fermentation or less.
But the stuff with wild yeast is interesting too, it changes the flavour, but is not particularly alcoholic. Everyone thinks the wild yeasts work well enough for alcohol and they really don’t usually but it depends, which is why wines traditionally had the emphasis on what year and regions it was from, as they were using the natural yeasts.
But taste wise the natural yeast might produce some of the best complex tastes in that regard. I also add some stuff occassionally, spruce tips, white pine needles, stinging nettle shoots. What else, yarrow shoots, blackberry roots, the really interesting one was burdock root, but it’s hard to get burdock root it always breaks off. The taste would be better elsewhere honestly but it’s interesting. Blackberry roots not so great I just have masses that I pull anyway.
Lots of great cheeses
That’s what he said: “extremely niche recipes you aren’t making.”
You ain’t some artisanal dairy in the French Alps that’s been making cheese the same way for 200 years, and neither are any of the lunatics complaining about US pasteurization laws.
Home cheesemaking is way more common of a hobby than you’re making it out to be.
All pointing this out is saying is that the solution needs a little bit of nuance.
Home cheesemakers ain’t 200-year-old artisanal dairies in the Alps, either! Literally almost everybody, including the vast majority of cheesemakers and 100.0% of hobbyist ones, are perfectly well-served by pasteurized milk.
Yes, but raw and pasteurized milk produce different flavors and textures. As long as it’s aged properly, it’s fine.
Literally all I’m suggesting is nuance in policy instead of a blanket ban. Allow people to get a license or something
How do you know? Maybe I am.
I know because the chance I’m wrong is absolutely minisule compared to the likelihood of the person being an anti-science nutjob.
In the U.S., unpasteurized cheese must be aged at least 60 days. In theory any pathogens in the milk will make themselves obvious in the finished product.
there is a place for natural fermentation with unpasteurized stuff. I am NOT doing it with milk. I’ll get my bacteria from sauerkraut or kimchi
mmm… kimchi… Dude, that shit is so good. I had a coworker who sold it in the breakroom, and it was fucking great.
Don’t forget lambics, there used to be a few I really enjoyed
Or fine filtered which will remove more bacteria without heating.
Now, a New Mexico newborn has died, and while medical experts have not yet determined an exact cause, they have determined that “the most likely source of infection was unpasteurized milk.” Not because the baby drank raw milk, but because their mother did, while she was pregnant.
Yooooo new legal abortion pill just dropped
The mother died too. That’s like saying the best way to beat cancer is let it kill you.
I feel like I’ve watched a TV show or movie, possibly sci-fi, where they determined they had to let some sort of infection or something kill them because they couldn’t do what was needed until it also died when they died, so they died, did it, and resuscitated them.
That was a movie called the remaining from 2014
I don’t watch horror movies so not that one, but it’s not surprising that it’d be used in more than 1 thing.
You’re right. It was the movie Awake on Netflix from 2021. If you fell asleep you die, and then the kid ends up drowning and the mother brought the kid back to life and it cured the kid of whatever was killing people.
That one does sound familiar ya.
100% success rate.
Reminds me of “Liston’s most famous case”:
This episode has since been dubbed as the only known surgery in history with a 300 percent mortality rate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Liston#Liston’s_most_famous_case
In fact the raw milk just entices leopards to eat it faster.
listeria, bovine turberculosis too.
Raw milk seems like a fine option for a farmer. Or really anyone that can see the cow from where they’re standing. Any farther away than that and you must be nuts
Let the idiots drink that stuff. The less idiots, the better.
I would agree, but innocent children will die. Otherwise, I would say go for it, bozos.
Darwin in action: the innocent children are better off.
Hi. I happen to be one of those kids who survived lunatics like this. Not all of us who have the privilege of growing up actually stick with their delusional version of reality. Maybe give a shit when there are kids involved.
Wouldn’t it have been better not to?
Instead of getting raised by “virgins” who kill off their children by disregarding the dangers of raw milk, the living innocent children can get raised by “Chads” who aren’t complete idiots. You want those innocent children to needlessly suffer prolonged experience under idiot parents? That’s cruel & you know it. I would prefer opting out early. They are indeed better off.
Dude, think about what you just said. What the fuck is wrong with you?
I know I wouldn’t want to be raised by such a dumbass parent. What the fuck is wrong with you to want that for them? Are you a sadist?
So do unvaxxed children. But unless you agree to forcefully vaccinate them there’s nothing we can do. I’d support a ban on selling raw milk. Idiots gonna idiot and I don’t have the tears to cry for their poor children.
What?
“You get to living, when you heat milk up, giving, hot, hot, hot!”
I’m of the opinion that raw milk is a part of rural American culture. I don’t want to make it so these people can’t express their culture. That being said, feeding raw milk to a baby? Are you fucking kidding me? Do people not know the risk? Are they not making sure the farmer they’re getting their milk from is following proper sanitary procedures during the milking process? It can’t be that they don’t know the risks, they must just have a room temp IQ. Just sad kids have to pay the price
They didn’t feed it to the baby. The baby got it from the mom who drank the raw milk. I mean also yeah these people are dumb AF, you basically have to be a moron to think drinking raw milk is a good idea.
People know the risk. They don’t believe the risk.
Sometimes people’s culture is shit and it needs to change.
