I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the councillor did it themselves to demonize the anti-data-center people
I bet this isn’t what really happened. It has the feel of a scam. The payout this guy has been promised for helping get that slop farm built must be huge.
You’d be surprised at how cheap indiana politicians can be bought for. If the stoners here could organize a go fund me and donate the cost of a taco bell meal each we’d have legal weed.
Holy moly indeed. Wow.
Hear me out…
How do we know it wasn’t a peaceful person leaving a hand written note begging for no more datacentres, when their nemesis, Dr Datacentre, drove past and started shooting at him?
Or even a rival cocaine dealer
There was a firefiiiiiiiight
Or maybe just one guy with six guns?
The four boxes of liberty-
- Soap box
- ballot box
- jury box
- ammo box
We’re at the last one because they’ve removed all the others.
That’s literally not true. The current administration is in power because 86 million eligible people didn’t bother to vote.
If “Did Not Vote” had been a candidate:
I’d be interested in an interactive version of this where you could assign a percentage of those votes to the person who lost the state as a naive proxy for “what would have happened if the people who thought their vote didn’t matter because [D|R] would win anyway”. I know it wouldn’t be an actual measure but it’d be fun to mess with anyway.
In particular I find it kinda interesting that CA and TX are both didn’t vote and both historically considered “easy wins”.
This image is just generally interesting because it also turns the idea of swing states around a bit. If neither candidate motivated enough people in all of those states could we consider them swing states?
I think you are on to something, but I’d say it actually largely deflates the ‘people didn’t vote and if they had, maybe the outcome would have been different’ narrative.
“Did not vote” rules in non-swing states. I wager that, for example, most people didn’t vote in california not because they see their candidate as a lost cause, but because they know “their” candidate has carried the state for sure.
So in a shift to proportional electoral vote or popular vote, you’d probably get a lot more voters engaged in California, Hawaii, NY, and pick up democrat votes but you’d also get more red voters from Alaska, Texas, Utah, Kansan, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Alabamba, Tennesse… etc… I’m not sure which group manages to bring out more non-voters in that scenario…
I wager that, for example, most people didn’t vote in california not because they see their candidate as a lost cause, but because they know “their” candidate has carried the state for sure.
That’s a natural interpretation as well. I wonder if it’d be possible to at least guess at whether it was that or “my person won’t win so what’s the point”. There are probably so many other factors. For example the “did not vote map” looks surprisingly similar to the SOVI map: https://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/place-health/php/svi/svi-interactive-map.html. I’m not entirely sure what to make of that, my knee jerk thought is that you could see more “what’s the point they’re both the same” or “neither side actually cares about my needs” among disenfranchised people in general combined with maybe more voter suppression efforts in disenfranchised areas? Would voting being a federal holiday or easier to vote by mail make those areas specifically better?
The only difference is that the Democrats wouldn’t be threatening to end the civilization. AIPAC and thus Israel has our country by the proverbial testicles.
AIPAC & Israel? This post is about domestic data centers. It’s easy to say “bOtH SiDeS” and that nothing would be different if we had successfully kept Trump from returning to power…
Between work, here, and other things pulling at me, got confused what it was about. My apologies.
For the actual topic, though, I still don’t see Dems are more than the control opposition party. You throw enough at most of them and they’ll let you do something.
p r a x i s
didn’t make ‘a good point’, homie made THIRTEEN of 'em
13 drive-by quick-access points
- ✅ Literal bullet points
High impact, he should do coaching sessions on LinkedIn!
Why we talkin bout the Klingon dilithium mining moon?
Everything’s fine on Praxis, don’t need help nope it’s all good thanks move along
i wonder if it’s literally pronounced “prak-sis” or if it’s a literal translation of the klingon word for the concept of praxis as humanity understands it…
They’re just going to data center even harder now to show them who’s boss
The local community is just getting a jumpstart on installing some much needed ventilation. Airflow is very important for data centers.
Wait, did the shooter walk up to the house, politely place the note under the mat, then start blasting?
Or did they light the place up before dropping off the note?
Note delivered via LeadEx
LeadEx Ground
We missed you.
☑️ We will make another attempt.
Small price to pay for 2nd amendment
It’s what Kirk would have wanted RIP
Had that zit on his neck not popped at the worst possible time
It would not have popped, if he didn’t do so much fent.
Its almost like fucking over all of us with rolling blackouts , skyrocketing power bills, sucking up water, and creating heat islands would upset us. Oh and further enriching billionaires with stolen land. Wow. Weird.
Don’t forget the infrasound! YouTube link: Datacenters behaving like acoustic weapons
I’ll watch, but it sounds a lot like people who think wind generators cause headaches and such.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infrasound
it’s been acknowledged by the scientific community as having an effect on humans and animals for decades.
“Having an effect” is completely different then saying it makes people sick, and the wiki article alternates between citing studies that it does cause discomfort to it doesn’t cause discomfort, and for the studies/experiments that actually proving it does have an effect it was very strong and specifically intended to cause discomfort.
It’s not the same, they’re loud high velocity small spinning blades. It’s the same concept as a box fan, very large diameter fan moving slowly is quiet, small high velocity fan is much louder. And they’re ground level and much closer to people and stacked together very closely instead of far apart.
It’s Benn Jordan. From watching a bunch of his videos the guy is super legit and would be happy to be disproved on most any of his findings.
Totally understand the skepticism, though this guy puts about as much due diligence into the video as one could hope for - near the end he’s trying to conduct a double-blind clinical trial!
I know he’s generally good, saw some of his flock camera stuff.
I am lazy. Is pseudoscience, mad science or just barnyard gossip?
Barnyard gossip with a pinch of divination. Mad science is actual science but for the explicit purpose of being evil or off the walls whacky; given enough time or a proper application mad science can turn into normal science.
yeah i figured the datacenters being sound weapons or something was close enough to mad science, right? it could be sam altman’s evil plan maybe?
The Free Market in action. If you keep behaving in conflict with the people, eventually the people are going to stop it. Ask that health care CEO. This was a threat this time. It won’t be a threat next time.
This guy is a politician, and a constituent is telling him the position he should take. He should do his job, and listen to his constituent.
They should’ve listened when people were on their soap boxes. Seems like someone got tired of seeing this guy ignoring them lol.
He’s lucky he got a warning. He should not push that luck.
Violence is never the answer, except when it is.
The problem with violence being the answer is that you need a specific scope and endpoint for it. Otherwise it becomes it’s own problem.
Valid. It is a useful tool, to be employed in the proper circumstances, to achieve a specific objective.
Unfortunately, these MAGA Morons have no idea what any of that means. Violence is just “Wicked Cool!” to them.
Oh, I don’t disagree about violence, in fact sometimes it’s the only language people understand.
I’m sick of not being able to vote for a fucking good person.
I will not vote for anyone approving data centers in my city. Scumbags.
Eco-terrorists do your thing. No one else will stop this stupid forward momentum on AI as it needs to suck in huge resources just so some dipshit can request porn comics.
Please people, you need to stop spreading this misinformation.
AI is not killing the environment. If you track the sources of these claims, you will find that they first were spread by McKinsey and Bloomberg, who have a vested interest in publicly traded oil companies and other polluting corporations. They love to spread this misinformation because it distracts from the REAL environmental harms being caused by fossil fuels, meat farming, and concrete production. See drawdown.org for the specific numbers.
We need to stay focused on climate change and not get distracted. Our efforts should be focused on stopping new coal plants and factory farms. Datacenters, and especially the one in indianapolis which wouldn’t even have used water for cooling, have minimal environmental impact compared to trump’s coal, oil, and farming policies which will kill tens of millions in the long run and have already sparked wars.
We can fix climate change. We were so close to replacing fossil fuels that oil companies got scared; we can’t afford to give up at the last mile.
The opportunity cost for AI is pretty high. That’s a lot of resources spent on something that’s bad for the world, even if it’s not specifically the worst for climate change reasons in a first order sense.
And you as a commenter have an opportunity cost too. You could be spending your time raising money for PETA or Oxfam, or researching climate change, or commenting about the effects of factory farms, but instead you’re just griping about the current popular thing to gripe about.
I donate 100% of my salary (I’m retired but still work) to fighting income inequality, climate change, animal abuse, and transphobia. It’s so frustrating to see people waste their time hating on things they don’t even understand just to fit in. Maybe this doesn’t describe everyone commenting, but if it does maybe they should get off their high horse. Sometimes the best thing a person can do for the world is shut up and give space for an actual expert to talk.
I really don’t think the billions of dollars spent on AI is equivalent or at all analogous to the time I spend posting on the toilet or while waiting for things to happen at work.
Honest question, you used the word opportunity cost, but do you not understand what that is? With an opportunity cost, you compare two possible actions that you can take. It doesn’t make sense to compare your action (supporting those that propagate misinformation) to the actions of an entire economy (investing in ai infrastructure), because the actor is not the same in both.
With an opportunity cost, you can only compare the actions that you can take, and you alone. I listed a few comparable actions in my previous comment: research climate change, research the climate effects of ai, post about factory farms, read up on solar, invite others to donate money to clean water causes. These can all be done on the toilet. Any of these is a better use of your time than joining a mob of people against a cause you don’t even fully understand.
There is opportunity cost of Microsoft et al investing billions in AI instead of doing anything else. That money could have been spent on renewable energy research, improving efficiency of existing hardware, supporting work from home to reduce commuting, whatever. Those opportunities are lost because they went with AI instead.
I didn’t mean my opportunity cost from the toilet.
AI is a poor use of limited resources and opportunity.
I didn’t mean my opportunity cost from the toilet.
I did, that’s literally what I’ve been talking about this whole time. I’m asking you to stop wasting yours and my time.
I actually think the market will beat them too it. Between Sora being taken out behind the barn, the laundry list of layoffs that indicate these companies are getting high off their own supply, and lastly the very real realization that all this “investment” is a massive billion dollar circle jerk.
It looks too bubbly to me, we can only hope the pop happens fast enough that these companies cant cannabalize eachother, but thats wishful thinking.
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The old delivery method for these kinds of ominous threatening notes was tied to a rock. This is new.
Isn’t a bullet basically a very fast little rock if you think about it?
Rocks and metals are usual considered opposite
Shooty pebbles.
They’re bad for your teeth and no one needs that much food coloring.
Better than Shoot Loops.
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I believe the classical interpretation is to nail your 95 complaints to the door with a dagger.
Pfff… You kids and your modern day doodads.
Baaaaack in my day, we would carve words into a flat rock and hurl it into the hut of our enemy.
Ah, you’re young enough that language was developed “back in your day.”
I had to shit in my hand and throw it at someone if I wanted to show displasure at someone. Fancy words and carving hadn’t been invented yet. You want to go insult thaag, hope you had plenty of fiber the night before…
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nobody died
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cause is good
Verdict- Doesn’t look like anything to me.
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