Because you now did it to yourself.

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      Hi, this sentiment from non-americans pisses me off and it’s okay, but I feel it’s important to explain why so I’m copying another comment I made today.

      Goodness knows some of us are trying our best. I mean keep in mind our country is a democracy in name but systemically props up white supremacists in excess of the real popular opinion. And a media disinformation machine keeps the working class divided against itself, with open support from the wealthiest and owners of the most popular social media platforms. Social media platforms that, let’s be honest, are super recent inventions we are not yet capable of engaging with safely. It makes it an uphill battle to try to reach out to people whose necks aren’t on the line. And the responsibility to do so falls upon the disenfranchised themselves, who are increasingly saddled with economic and health burdens that might just kill us someday.

      I get the potshots at Americans, but frankly I don’t plan on taking the blame if this goes tits up - many of us did a hell of a lot more than vote to resist fascism. Nothing happened here that isn’t happening elsewhere. And I’ll fight the notion that citizens at large are the problem. It’s a cynical outlook that serves to individualize the responsibility for a systematic disaster. Our country was built to make this possible after all. And I sure as hell know I don’t plan on giving up. Kind of morbidly curious about how much of an incompetent clusterfuck Project 2025’s implementation will be.

      Victory or no, fascists are paper tigers and I plan on sticking around to remind them of that fact however I can.

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        Most of us can, and are also stunned by the dunbass other half of the population

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    Well, I for one will question it, because I don’t understand what I’m seeing. How the flying fuck is this happening?

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        Calling this apathy is letting Nazis off easy. This isn’t apathy, this is a massive chunk of the US population willingly acting on this. Today is truly a tragedy.

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    Listen to any random Trump speech, replace “migrants” with “jews” and you have a Hitler speech.

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    Fuck, this his hard. As a father of a gay child, and a trans child, our immediate plans are passports.

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      As you know, we’re in a similar boat. Thankfully, we can get to Britain and stay (in theory) but the prospect of telling my elderly mother and my wife’s family goodbye for the last time, finding the money, finding new jobs with my health issues, just downsizing so that we can move…

      But we are doing it.

      I hope you and your family find safety and my best wishes to all of you.

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      *Visa. Passport won’t be enough to travel to the EU and select other countries in 2025.

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        EITAS isn’t a visa, and you can do it without travel plans and it lasts 3 years, tied to your passport.

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    Well the entire multiplatform astroturfing campaign from people who call themselves leftists worked! Democrats stayed home instead of voting.

    Now Palestine will be completely flattened with 0 resistance at all, and redoubled support and bombs for Israel! Way to go! You really showed your support for Palestine by helping this happen!

    They will probably come back saying “it wasn’t our fault, we just pointed out the truth” while they shouted that a vote for Harris was a vote for genocide [so don’t vote for harris] from every platform that they used.

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      Trump also promised to talk with Russia about solving the Ukraine problem, wanna bet that Russia just keeps going west? :D

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      Honest question: Why blame the voters? Why not blame Harris for refusing to do the obviously correct, ethical even moral thing regarding Gaza?

      The democrats are so impossibly spineless that they wait for polls and focus groups for their talking points instead of standing up for their principles (if they really exist).

      Dems spent the entire campaign trying to compromise with and convince right wingers acting in bad faith instead of just working towards progressive policies. They once and again let the GOP set the tone for every conversation.

      The Dem’s attitude towards the genocide in Gaza is just a piece of evidence that shows their way of thinking: the dog race and politicking is more important that doing the right thing.

      So stop blaming the voters and take a deep look into your own values and principles because the nation being obliterated right now in the middle east and the people who stand for them even at great cost to themselves are definitely not to blame.

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        Honest question: Why blame the voters? Why not blame Harris for refusing to do the obviously correct, ethical even moral thing regarding Gaza?

        Because it’s only one issue out of many that need to be addressed (I didn’t say fixed because IMHO the IDF are doing pretty good work eradicating Hamas, all things considered).

        You guys need to take care of your housing, healthcare, gerrymandering, public transport, student loans, separation of religion and government and a truckload of other things that I don’t think Trump has any interest in improving. And you can bet your bottom dollar that Trump won’t be any “better” in regards to the situation in Gaza and the rest of the middle east.

        So the voters that didn’t vote Harris purely because of the Gaza issue are to blame for their short sightedness.

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          Okay so blame the arabs in Wisconsin. Got it. Now do Pennsylvania. Why did they go trump. Tell me more mr oracle.

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            What the fuck are you talking about? I answered a pretty specific question which had nothing go do with Arabs in Wisconsin…

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              I was putting a mirror in front of your face about what you just did. which was blame victims an act as if it was the moral thing.

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                  I was referring to our arab brothers and sisters. But if you want to open it up to the middle class democrats have repeatedly failed to support id be happy to give you that. They to are victims.

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      You’ll probably be permabanned from the instance for saying this but obvious pro trump trolls will get a comment deleted once a day so it all balances out /s

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    “Historians have a word for Germans who joined the Nazi party, not because they hated Jews, but out of a hope for restored patriotism, or a sense of economic anxiety, or a hope to preserve their religious values, or dislike of their opponents, or raw political opportunism, or convenience, or ignorance, or greed.

    That word is “Nazi.” Nobody cares about their motives any more.

    They joined what they joined. They lent their support and their moral approval. And, in so doing, they bound themselves to everything that came after. Who cares any more what particular knot they used in the binding?”

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      History furnishes us with innumerable instances that prove this law. It shows, with a startling clarity, that whenever Aryans have mingled their blood with that of an inferior race the result has been the downfall of the people who were the standard-bearers of a higher culture. In North America, where the population is prevalently Teutonic, and where those elements intermingled with the inferior race only to a very small degree, we have a quality of mankind and a civilization which are different from those of Central and South America. In these latter countries the immigrants–who mainly belonged to the Latin races–mated with the aborigines, sometimes to a very large extent indeed. In this case we have a clear and decisive example of the effect produced by the mixture of races. But in North America the Teutonic element, which has kept its racial stock pure and did not mix it with any other racial stock, has come to dominate the American Continent and will remain master of it as long as that element does not fall a victim to the habit of adulterating its blood.

      https://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks02/0200601.txt - Main Kampf

      The confederate states and their Jim Crow policies inspired Hitler. and black GIs came home from liberating Europe to be lynched for being “uppity”.

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    Pour one out for America and Ukraine, and the Middle East in general. And Taiwan.

    Europe and Asia, you guys better get your shit together, we might be out of this one permanently. Or we might have a very long recovery time spanning decades. Such fucking bullshit.

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      Europe […] you guys better get your shit together

      LMAO my guy we’re sandwiched between the US their thousands of nuclear warheads and Russia their thousands of nuclear warheads, what do you want me to do?

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      Europe and Asia, you guys better get your shit together

      Yes, it’s now or never.

      Who am I kidding, we won’t do anything, of course. Everyone will huddle in his corner.

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      I know Americans get upset when I say this to them but honestly, I think it’s the time the United States broke up, it’s too big, it’s too powerful, and as soon as someone like him gets in charge everything goes to shit.

      If the United States was smaller it wouldn’t matter as much if a random dictator got in charge of a small bit of it.

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      I lived in the shithole parts of the country, it made perfect sense.

      Many ‘Americans’ would eat shit if they knew the smell would piss people off.