We all grew up with free speech. That’s what the USA has always been about. Now you have an admin who threatens and bullies taxpayers.
We all grew up with free speech.
Tell that to any Black American over the age of 65.
The USA was a political experiment started solely by white, landowning, 20-something slavers for the express intent of genociding as many Native Americans as possible. It’s time for us to stop trying to “reclaim patriotism” and realize the American poltical experiment has devolved into fascism and must be dismantled.
BOYCOTT ABC!! And send angry letters to cowardly execs who did this!!
Point of order. ABC is owned by Disney. Make of that what you will.
people still watch network TV? That’s that thing where they force to to watch something at a set time, then play ads?
Watch the monologue before viewing it becomes a crime. He didn’t even make fun of Saint Charlie.
He does make fun of Lord Trump though. Which, as we all know, is illegal.
the most shocking part of the news about his death was his age. how was this motherfucker not at least 46 years old
Coming soon: The Charlie Kirk Show! What- Too late? :-( #ripcharliekirk
Now i wonder what John Oliver gonna say this week, or he gonna get censored by HBO as well?
Depends on whether or not HBO is seeing continually declining numbers of viewership. CBS, NBC, ABC those are all dying networks and they’ll do anything to stay on air.
Nah, let them die, if they’re so eager to kill their shows.
This is what I think too!
These are the death knells of dying industry, like Howard Stern leaving terrestrial radio in 2004, which was ultimately the result of the Super Bowl Halftime show when Janet Jackson exposed her nipple.
It’s literally the same crap. Something happens that people don’t like, and a failing media industry tries to stay relevant by clamping down, losing their talent in the process.
Back then it was shock jocks on terrestrial radio, now it’s late night and “cable” tv.
ABC and CBS didn’t get bought recently because they’re doing well, you know?
Sources: Howard Stern’s Wikipedia page, the “nipplegate” Wikipedia page, and having too much energy this morning.
and AM radio is now 100% ranting by old white men about widening the roads and taxes.
Which actually started this whole thing!
The 1987 repeal of the Fairness Doctrine led to far more divisive radio hosts. So many political things started on talk radio, like the idea that the Clinton’s have a “body count.”
Rush Limbaugh was hired by ABC Radio in 1988, for example.
Prior to 1987 people using much less controversial verbiage had been taken off the air as obvious violations of the fairness doctrine. Wikipedia article
Thank you for this much needed perspective. While the FCC’s actions reek of overreach, ABC folding like a cheap card table just didn’t sit well with me. Especially considering how CBS’ parent company went to court first before cancelling Colbert. It makes a lot more sense now.
Especially considering how CBS’ parent company went to court first before cancelling Colbert.
…and settled. There was no verdict. They settled.
ABC also settled with Trump for “defamation” for $15 million.
If the networks were in a better place financially, they would have been able to fight the defamation case. See Fox vs. Dominion Voting Systems, which Fox ultimately settled in 2023 for $787.5 million right after a jury was seated.
Notice the difference. The former is a failing company’s (ABC) capitulation to a failing businessman because they couldn’t possibly go to court with someone like him. The latter (Dominion) is a successful business who didn’t back away because they weren’t desperate in the first place.
Just like neoliberals. Pretend to be an opposition to fascism but will bend the knee to perpetuate fascist ideology
No, this is pure capitalism.
Almost there.
What do you think liberalism subscribes to?
Isn’t there a pending merger?
As I understand, there is a merger in the works for Nexstar Media, which owns a huge number of local ABC affiliates and has the ability to just not actually air Kimmel on their stations.
What was said? Can’t open the link.
Something along the lines of how MAGA is doing everything they can to show it was a liberal that did it, when we all know it’s MAGA.
(I know that Kimmel may be wrong, I’m just reporting what he said.) I’m pretty sure that’s the line that did it.
That’s also all I can find. I don’t see why they’d fire him for that; MAGA people have said far worse things, both in response to this shooting and on a general basis. Like the Fox guy who wanted to kill homeless people (and apparently people have already acted on that).
I don’t see why they’d fire him for that
Because the US is now an authoritarian country where the government controls the media.
Is your country great again? Was so difficult to vote for her instead to avoid this fascistic nightmare, wasn’t it?
That slogan “Make America great again” made us Germans very uneasy from the start, cause we remember the last guy who promised us (very literally) to make Germany great again.
Where do you think Trump got the idea for it?
Of course he got it from Hitler, who got the idea from America’s “Manifest Destiny” philosophy. It’s fascist turtles all the way down …
I’d assume it was Ronald Reagan since it was also his slogan in the 1980’s.
It’s pretty clear that Trump is a fascist piece of shit but this game he is playing has been going on a lot longer than people think.
I know that Trump secretly admires moustache guy. But I honestly don’t think he is well-read or intelligent enough to realize it’s exactly the same slogan moustache guy used. With Trump, willful ignorance is always the most likely option because malicious intent requires a degree of intellect he does not possess.
Secretly admires?
I honestly don’t think he is well-read or intelligent enough to realize it’s exactly the same slogan moustache guy used.
Ivana said Trump kept a book of Hitler’s speeches by the bed. He definitely knows it’s the same slogan.
Well, I still doubt he read them all.
As a German native speaker, I have listened to almost all of the publicly available Hitler speeches, and I found it incredibly hard to keep paying attention. It’s as bad as Mein Kampf - just weird sequences of relatively incoherent segments of his twisted world views. Very hard to follow.
And Trump is well known for his extremely short attention span. I would be very, very surprised if that man managed to read even a single Hitler speech from start to finish in one sitting.
Underestimating him is how we got here.
No, underestimating the capacity of a large amount of idiots to recognize all the flaws of this unspeakably horrible person and elect the fucker nonetheless, that’s what got us here.
Democrats bear almost as much blame for nominating “lesser-evil” candidates over someone who is actually good.
Donald Trump won because Bernie lost, twice.
You deserve it for refusing to vote for a viable candidate. You don’t get to blame people who rejected a genocidal candidate, blame those who called genocide lesser evil.
Maybe when everyone is on the same page about rejecting evil, something will change. But no, you’ll downvote and feel self righteous about it as you cheerlead for another fascist (Newsom).
Cancel Disney+, Hulu, ESPN and your live streaming TV/cable sub if you have one.
https://help.disneyplus.com/article/disneyplus-cancel
https://help.hulu.com/article/hulu-cancel-hulu-subscription
https://support.espn.com/hc/en-us/articles/40377589107476-How-do-I-cancel-my-ESPN-subscription
Damn it! Now I regret pirating everything!
Y’all! This isn’t ABC - this is conservative Sinclair and Nexstar Media Group!
@[email protected] nailed this one by reading the article.
Nexstar Media Group forced ABC’s hand on this by saying they would run non-ABC programming on all their local TV stations they own. They’re in the process of getting FCC approval for a $6 billion deal that would give them ownership of 265 local TV stations in 44 states.
Meanwhile, Sinclair Media, which also owns tons of local TV stations, isn’t letting Kimmel’s rerun on Friday be broadcast anyway, instead showing a CK tribute show. So they were likely also going to do the same to ABC and just hadn’t said anything publicly because they don’t need deal approved right now.
This is the media version of Red-Stating, where state legislatures were slowly turned by the GOP which gave them the power to Gerrymander Dem-held House districts away and turn them red in 2021. How do you stop a global juggernaut liberal media company? You marginalize them by buying up all the local affiliates and stations that still make up a large part of their market. You buy up everything that sits in between the viewer and the media itself. Once the media company withers, you shove in your own programming as gaps open up.
of course it’s also ABC. ABC could have said “lol get fucked” but they bent the knee. And keep in mind ABC is owned by Disney who owns ESPN who JUST made a deal with notorious right-wing “trump buddy, buddy” company TKO to nickle and dime people to watch WWE shows. TKO the same company that is going to put on a UFC event on the damn White House lawn. TKO the same company that decided to cancel Wrestlemania in New Orleans in favor of take MORE blood money from Saudi Arabia and having it there instead.
They all connect with each other so saying one company isn’t to blame and another one is, is bullshit and you know it. ABC is as much to blame as Sinclair. At the end of the day they all bow to dear leader.
Right? The number of calls Sinclair would have got when people can’t watch sports on ABC would have been insane.
So I did the next thing and cancelled Hulu live with ESPN and Disney plus.
ESPN plus might be a bit hard, my daughter loves college volleyball and it’s the only one that offers tons of matches to watch
Well, it’s ABC who don’t want to stand up to it
Because micky mouse doesn’t give a fuck about anyone except the dollar.
We’re now talking about this instead of how trump is a pedo.
This seems kinda important too though
Sure seems like “minor celebrity” is the threshhold at which anyone gives a fuck.
What? The issue is that government is directly silencing someone by employing threats through FCC not that it’s Jimmy Kimmel
It was an issue when it was schoolteachers losing their jobs and students being expelled.
But now people give a fuck about the issue because minor celebrity.
Because a big name can actually rally resistance
Because no one else is worth anything in the US.
omg take your defeatist whiny attitude to your anime pillow.
See, I’m someone who can’t stand Jimmy Kimmel. I find him both unfunny and very annoying as a person, and I never thought there would come a day where I would actually defend him vigorously, but here we are.
This is truly inexcusable. This is the most blatant violation of the first amendment possible. This is a clear cut example of the government coercing and colluding with corporations to censor a private citizen on a private show for comments that are perfectly legal. He was only censored because MAGA morons got triggered by a statement that’s not even controversial. Even IF it was controversial, that’s literally the whole point of free speech. It’s to defend offensive, controversial, and unpopular opinions from government persecution.
See, I didn’t care much when Colbert got cancelled because it seemed like it was a business decision, sure, whatever. But this? This is MAGA crossing a line that should never be crossed. We’re starting to enter into actual tyranny territory from this administration. The only MAGA conservatives left are either slimy opportunists or blind loyalists, so I’m not holding my breath on them holding themselves accountable. However, I am hoping that everyone else stands up and takes a stand against this because the consequences of this are very, very serious.
July 2: Paramount and Trump settle bullshit 60 Minutes lawsuit for $16 million
July 14: Colbert criticizes the lawsuit saying it’s a “big fat bribe.”
July 17: CBS announces that Colbert is cancelled
Paramount is in the process of a large merger with Skydance Media, which must be approved by regulators (including those controlled/affected by the federal government)
It wasn’t as blatantly corrupt, but it was still corrupt.
Forgive me, but I’m just trying to wrap my head around how many people have been sleeping and still are.
Tyranny is already here. It’s been here since they started taking people to concentration camps. Like how do people not get that? The line has already been crossed and then some. Tyranny is here and will continue to reign until you and everybody else who is asleep or groggy are willing to wake up and do the hard but correct actions.
I think of “the line” as the event horizon around a black hole. You can recognize it from a distance, but it’s not like there’s a physical barrier you go through when you pass it. That means that if you were actually falling into the hole, you wouldn’t necessarily know when you’ve past the “point of no return.” It’s all just more freefall (and eventual spaghettification) from your point of view. Only those on the outside, looking in, could see that you’re already full and truly screwed.
I think we passed the event horizon long ago. Anyone talking about “going back to normal” (as I’ve seen some politicians say) is depressingly naive. There is no turning back - the only way out is through.
I am amazed and shocked every time the line is crossed.
It is crossing it farther and farther as well, with increasing similarities to other authoritarian lead countries in history.
My shock is not one of ignorance but defying normalcy.
However this stuff has been great for people who didn’t pay attention much before or believe stuff before. This time the administration is barely trying to sugarcoat what they are doing.
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Thanks for waking up.
There’s a word for what is happening: Gleichschaltung
The Germans really do have a fucking word for everything, don’t they?
We do, because it’s very easy to construct new and rather specific nouns in the German language.
The famous “Schadenfreude” is nothing else but a combination of “Schaden” (damage) and “Freude” (joy).
Wanna mildly insult someone…
- by saying he’s not man enough to take a cold shower? Call him a “Warmduscher” (warm + person taking a shower).
- by saying he used to be the stupid kid at school who always forgot his gym bag? “Turnbeutelvergesser” (gym bag + person who forgets)
- by saying he’s too scared to swim in the center of a swimming pool? “Beckenrandschwimmer” (pool’s edge + swimmer)
There are countless synonyms like that, it even used to be some kind of trend inventing new ones.
In short, I think we Germans are expert “Wortneuschöpfer” (creators of new words).
There’s an English idiom that states; “If it’s stupid and it works, it’s not stupid”.
Something similar to that can be said about the German language’s ability to form compound words.
Now, could you please humour me and let me know if there is one word that could describe a person who is too afraid to swim in the centre of a pool, can only take hot showers, always forgets their gym bag, and takes joy in the misery of others? 😆
Ah, I’m afraid that’s where even the German language reaches its limits.
As soon as you try to convey several separate notions in one word and you’re forced to use “and” in it, it breaks the word. A fine example is the word previously mentioned in this thread:
“Rinderkennzeichnungs- und Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz”
It’s a law (Gesetz) on the assignment (Übertragung) of tasks (Aufgaben) concerning the supervision (Überwachung) of cattle identification (Rinderkennzeichnung) AND the labelling (Etikettierung) of beef (Rindfleisch). Hence the “und” in there.
In other words, German compound words are very specific and usually don’t carry more than one meaning, I’m sorry to say. :)
I mean… In this context it is easy for, since we seen this one through already.
Yeah, but they just stitch words together by skipping the space: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rinderkennzeichnungs-_und_Rindfleischetikettierungsüberwachungsaufgabenübertragungsgesetz
German kids like inventing nonsensical words like that.
My favorite one I remember from my childhood is “Bettdeckenbezugsschonersonnenblumenmusterwebfehler”. Which roughly translates to: A weaving flaw in the sunflower pattern on a bed sheet cover.
they have experience in these matters.
Just to be clear: they suspended him for criticizing MAGA for trying to claim that the killer wasn’t one of them. He didn’t say anything about Charlie Kirk. He was censored for speaking truth by his own network. Not only censored, censured and suspended indefinitely.
We’re 100% there kids. The founding fathers made a point to put something right after freedom of speech, from religion, and of assembly. Right there 2nd in order. Unabridged. Welp the 1st amendment is being abridged as we speak. And I hear that second thing was put in place to protect that first thing. I’ve been hearing it for over 50 years.
*quick edit in case anyone else wants to try to educate me about the constitution: no, he isn’t protected by the 1st amendment from getting suspended. ABC should be protected but seeing as they’ve already settled for $16 million over threats on their FCC license and brought in new trump-friendly leadership, we can all agree he wasn’t suspended due to ratings drops. Stop pretending things are normal. This is an obvious 1st amendment issue.
Hold up - it goes a layer deeper and is actually fairly similar to what happened to Colbert.
ABC had their hand forced because of a pending merger between Nexstar Media Group and Tenga, which once the FCC approves it, would place Nexstar in ownership of 80% of local TV channels in the US. Nexstar is based in Texas, so it’s not exactly ABC-Disney friendly.
So they threatened to censor Kimmel themselves on local TV stations unless ABC did it for them. They had on the ground infrastructure power to do this.
And yes, we’re 100% there. The key point is to understand that while everyone sees ABC as the Big Bad here, it’s the infrastructure companies that have leverage and no one knows their names or how much they actually own.
Edit: Just saw this - Sinclair’s local ABC affiliates are replacing Kimmel reruns will air their own CK tribute show, just on their own whatever, fuck ABC’s programming.
Yep.
It’s not just “ABC” either, it’s Disney/Hulu.
I just canceled both services and everyone else should too.
Fuck em. All they care about is money, so let’s show them that siding with fascism costs a shit ton of money
If nothing else it will get the CEO who did this fired.
Anyone who reads this… Cancel them all and spend a few 100 bucks setting up a Jellyfin server.
Ive been using a Synology with DS video for three 3 years, they killed DS video so I turned my gaming PC into a Jellyfin server, best decision ever, and Im using tailscale to host it to a few friends
100% - except Jellyfin only works well if you use the desktop/web UI. If you use TV apps, firestick, shield - any app based system, Jellyfin is total garbo, and I’d recommend Plex instead. I wish Jellyfin apps worked better, I’d switch in a heartbeat, but it runs like garbage on my Nvidia Shield.
Before streaming really caught on, we didn’t bother with cable TV. I used to spend a considerable amount of time each week downloading all my family’s favorite shows, and burning them onto DVDs to watch at our leisure. No schedules, no commercials, rewind a scene at my convenience, etc. it was well worth the trouble.
When streaming started, I got caught up in platform creep, like everyone else. I started with Netflix, and the next thing I know, I’ve got a half dozen or more subscriptions. I slowed down on downloading, only grabbing the occasional movie, but now there are so many streaming platforms that subscribing to the necessary ones costs more than cable. So I’m going back to pirating again, starting with any ABC programming. I seldom watch Disney stuff, but something pops up now and then. I watch Hulu pretty often, but I don’t mind downloading Only Murders in the Building instead.
Amother tip: My current cable plan includes built in TIVO, so I record a lot of shows to watch later. When I do, I can skip the commercials, which is what hurts them more than anything. People think media companies exist to serve entertaining programming, but that’s not true at all, that’s just the illusion they offer viewers. All they really are is advertising platforms. That’s their real business, and their real mission - to get us to watch the advertising that their clients pay for. The entertainment programming is just bait, to get us to sit on our asses in front of the TV, hoping that when the ads come on, we’ll be too lazy to get up and walk away, so they’ll rape our minds with enticing ads for overpriced consumer goods from China. I’m actually surprised they haven’t tried to prohibit TIVO.
So when you skip the commercials, you are effectively doing the same thing as pirating - removing the way they make money. NOTHING hurts them worse than consuming their expensive bait, without paying for it by either watching the ads, or paying their subscription.
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This is exactly my story. Once the billionaires started sucking DJTs dick, supporting genocide, doing crazy fascist shit and fucking all of us normies into oblivion in the process, I stopped caring. These companies do insane crime with no repercussions and even benefit from it? From my pov, I’m obliged to pirate.
Our economy is at a turning point. The “experiment” of Trickle Down Economics was proven to be a scam many years ago, and yet it still persists as our primary economic system.
If we don’t make the switch to Trickle UP Economics, we will organically switch to Robin Hood Economics (Take from the rich, give to the poor), and that often comes accompanied by guillotines.
I so honestly wish I had time to do that.
Unfortunately, I just need tv to work and Disney+ is a way to throw money at the problem instead of time.
The crazy part is, I do have a 20TB Plex server, but there’s a problem with the machine and I just don’t have time to troubleshoot it. So despite already having much of that content, I’m paying to access it.
Then throw your money in a different direction.
I’m all for it! Show me another direction that works!
Disney Plus is the only service I know of that actually has an access pin lockout system to keep kids in their kids account. All I want is a way for a 9 year old to watch tv without running into adult content. That turns out to be hard when your particular kid will actively seek out anything you tell them to avoid.
But honestly, Disney has the largest amount of appropriate content for them anyway. I think I’m stuck with this for now.
I’m an old head, everything I watch on Hulu/Disney I have on Plex.
I was just subscribing because I have disposable income and wanted my dollars to count as eyeballs on media I enjoy.
But fuck that.
A significant amount drop in subscribers not only has a real chance to change their mind, it makes every other corp reevaluate whether to fight trump or not.
When you cancel it asks for a reason, and “Other” gives freeform text - I let them know that bending the knee on fascism was my line.
Yeah same although I’m now concerned about that ending up on my Palantir profile. Isn’t it great that that’s actually a fairly legitimate concern nowadays?
There’s some solace in dying in a prison camp next to men and women and children that also hate fascists.
Way ahead of you. I dont watch Disney anything but I’m about to fill my disks with Disney crap and seed away.
I’ll leave this idea here: https://www.drewlyton.com/story/the-future-is-not-self-hosted/
Is someone working on building something like that? I saw the project Storj and the coin, and it seemed like a cool idea for storage, I guess.
What’d be great is if someone started making something like Nextcloud combined with some clones of things AWS components + Kubernetes and make that peer-to-peer as far as running the compute and getting redundant storage, etc.
There was a really interesting project about 10 years ago - cannot remember the name of it now. I think it was a prepackaged OS bundled with lots of self-hosting type of solutions out of the box. Still, that was isolated self-hosting.
ETA: I remember the project now, it’s FreedomBox: https://www.freedombox.org/
Just started Alien Earth, got place to pirate?
If you got a little disposable income try newsgroups, I’ve always been able to find what I need.
FreeMedia? HeckYeah
Try to get an invite to a private tracker. Public ones suck
IPT invites are easy to get and it’s good enough to get started and build a reputation, which you will need for invites to better trackers
You just talk over my head. Enlighten me?
Basically you need to go turn tricks and suck up to people for a invite to a club so you can suck up to more exclusive clientele so you can get invites to even more exclusive clubs.
Said tricks is seeding torrents like a good boy.
Or use Stremio
Wait, Walt Disney would never side with Nazis…would he!!!
Unfortunately I don’t have an account to cancel.
Seed more
Dicks out, torrents up
It was a pretty tame comment too. What a bunch of snow flakes.
If you care about democracy and not what some Republican fascist say, right now is the time to buy a gun. The 2nd amendment will be purged next.
…from my cold dead hands, as they say
Cold, dead, pudgy hands.
Maybe yours
Your hands are pudgy don’t lie. You don’t have sleak metal mechanical hands like is proper.
To support the gun economy? The Republicans aren’t coming for the second amendment. What are you getting at?
He is saying arm yourself while it is legal, so you have weapons for when you need them to fight off bad people in designer uniforms… Roughly translated.
How’s that working out for people?
Look up what the Mulford act is. When the Black Panthers armed themselves and started patrolling their own neighborhoods in Oakland suddenly the Republicans were against carrying a loaded gun in public. The act was signed into law by then California governor Reagan and was even backed by the NRA
Republicans are pro free speech until they hear speech they don’t like. Republicans are pro 2A until they see people that aren’t them carrying guns.
he can still sue them, but he has an escape plan just in case things dont pan out, aka flee to italy.
2A for all. Time to resist in other ways
He’ll get to youtube and find success there, hopefully.
youtube is part of the problem, they promote thier current regime, through right wing propaganda flooding the feeds.
Brave to assume YouTube won’t censor him. This may go down to Peertube hosted in Europe real fast.
only choice is hosting his own site, or licensing his shows to other networks.
Is Media Goblin still a thing?
Seems unlikely that format would be able to fund his writers / producers etc.
Here’s hoping. Colbert too.
Considering a large part of Colbert’s cancellation was poor YouTube ratings tho
Hours per eyeball matter on YouTube. “Ratings” mean fuck-all there.
YT ads pay a fraction of broadcast per impression, so they need exponentially more viewers.
most content creators, at least the big ones dont depend on ads, but brand deals, promotions, and other companies paying them.
But we’re considering Paramount here.
No way they don’t both have a podcast since that’s the financially lucrative model on YouTube, for better or for worse.
they suspended him for criticizing MAGA for trying to claim that the killer wasn’t one of them
Regardless of how fascist this is of course, I think the killer isn’t one of them, though? For what I understood, he grew up in a MAGA family, but then got radicalized towards the left somehow, probably online ecochambers or friends. I mean the bullet engravings, if that’s all real, are pretty clear.
Downvote me if you like, but my question is genuine, if anyone will bother to reply.
The bullet engravings, while some of them use left wing slogans, were entirely based on Helldivers 2 and Groyper memes. It’s an intentional bastardization of the left’s terminology utilized by the far right followers of Nick Fuentes.
Dude is 22, groyper wars began in 2019 he was 16.
Just before that I was playing hall monitor on Reddit reporting subs including frenworld, clown world, etc.
IMHO if he was hanging around people like that he was being radicalized constantly
16 is the peak age to get indoctrinated. So that makes sense.
he probably follows nick fuentes constantly, and consumes other right talking heads constantly, by having tiktok, discord, or stream on, in the background of a computer. i know a trumper in my family that has far-right content constantly as a background on thier pc.
Radicalized by neonazis, fell for a trans girl, committed the right wing terrorism he was groomed to commit.
Making your first queer friend doesn’t suddenly make a person a leftist, nor does it make their violence leftist.
From what I read he was a groyper and felt that Kirk wasn’t right leaning enough. but the news manipulates the information daily, so, :shrug🤷
Didn’t his texts say something to the effect of, “I’ve had enough of his hatred.” That doesn’t sound like something someone who didn’t think CK was far right enough would say.
You believe that this regime would release an accurate accounting of the so-called messages?
I don’t trust a single fucking thing the Nazis are saying.
Ponder this as well, why are they releasing pre-trial evidence so freely? I thought things under investigation (like the FUCKING EPSTEIN EVIDENCE) were supposed to be sealed up tight during investigations?
This is conspiracy thinking.
The Utah county prosecutors office released those texts, not the Trump administration. You’re suggesting that the president and his goons have infiltrated the local prosecutor to plant fake evidence where the shooter obliquely indicates he’s left leaning when the fuckwits can’t even keep reporters out of their signal chats?
Releasing non-confidential information to the public is common in high visibility cases like this at this point in the investigation. They haven’t released anything that would compromise witnesses etc. which is what should be kept under seal.
Jeff Gray (Republican Party) ran for election to the Utah County Attorney. He was on the ballot in the Republican primary on June 28, 2022.
He is one of the fascist controlled goons.
Every single republican is compromised. Active enemies of the republic. If they weren’t, they would denounce America’s Hitler publicly.
So yea, I don’t trust a single fucking word any single worthless anti-american republican could ever spew.
Who knows, but are you assuming that the prosecutors are nonpartisan…? And I’m not an expert on US law, but I thought pre-trial stuff is kept as quiet as possible to not impact the jury selection process and such?
Exactly. They are not to be believed in the slightest, especially when the propaganda is this fucking obvious.
it will be hard to choose a juror, that hasnt heard about Kirk recently, unless your a boomer/retiree or someone very naive that doesnt consume much media, thats how they choose the jurors.
Ideally, but America is one of those stupid places that makes prosecutor an elected office, so they’re always keen to grandstand when the press is biting.
Irrelevant. Right or wrong Jimmy cannot be suspended over this.
Source on that? I’ve been looking for confirmation one way or the other
There are no confirmations one way or another yet, but all the circumstantial evidence is pointing strongly that he was rooted in right wing ideologue.
All of the quite possibly manufactured evidence you mean. Never trust a nazi to tell the truth.
There is not enough information to confirm one way or the other, but there is a lot information being released. It’s not hard to find with a simple search. For example the court charges document. (Whether the investigation can be trusted is another question though)
There’s no clear evidence either way. If you cherry pick certain facts you can paint a compelling narrative of any ideology.
My take is the dude, like most Americans, doesn’t fit cleanly into right or left politics but was motivated by violent rhetoric targeting queer people. But we’ll see if further information comes to light.
Which casing engravings were leftist?
No, not BULLETS. The bullets are the projectiles, not the enclosing brass
This has nothing to do with the first amendment.
This is the chilling effect of Trump (the President) suing networks who report the truth about him, and recent rhetoric by members of Congress and the DoJ about using the force of government to silence a tractors. Self-centering before fascist wanna-tator comes after you doesn’t make it not a first amendment issue.
It abso-fucking-lutely does.
This is the government controlling speech thru threat of trumped up criminal charges and frivolous lawsuits.
trumps been suing these big corps and they’ve been caving, it worked.
This time he sicced the FCC on them threatening criminal charges, and it worked again
There has to be consequences in the form of immediate loss of revenue or this will keep working and trump will keep asking for more.
Start paying attention cuz it’s getting to the point people won’t believe claims of ignorance for where things are headed.
Fascism, people. This is it
Corporations are designed to bend the knee…no shock they are doing it…
I agree with your point; nothing in the comment I responded to made anything close to or even alluded to your point.
Just look at their “clarifying” response to my comment.
Yeah. Saw that…
You’ve made it abundantly clear you’re treating this like a debate club and not the fall of our fucking country.
You know there was someone else who got relatively famous selling his soul doing that…
Freedom of the press is literally the first amendment. Television is protected by the first amendment. He was suspended because right wing lunatics didn’t like his free speech. In what world does this NOT have anything to do with the first amendment? Why am I even replying to you? You obviously have no idea what free speech means.
You. I like you.
Television is protected by the first amendment.
With limitations on broadcast TV, due to the scarcity of broadcast frequencies.
“Congress shall make no law…”
The press is protected from the government.
It doesn’t have a thing to do with protecting employees of the press form the pressGUESS WHICH FUCKING NETWORK HOSTED KIMMEL
The owner of the company can still suspend an on air personality and it’s not infringing on free speech because it’s not the government forcing that person off the air but rather the network they work for. Also free speech is specifically a congressional issue, the first amendment saying that congress can make no law stifling speech. It actually says nothing about legislative or judicial branches stopping speech. So it would specifically be that congress wrote a bill to kick him off the air. Otherwise it’s all fair game.
it’s not the government forcing that person off the air but rather the network they work for.
It’s the government forcing the network forcing the person off air.
Sure, if you ignore the fact that CBS settled with Trump for $16 million because he didn’t like their free speech, and now they have new Trumpian leadership. You’re absolutely right they have the legal right do do what they want with their business. but the alternative is being attacked by the government again, so is that your real argument?
By the letter of the law, yes. But decades of Supreme Court case law disagree with you.
https://www.ala.org/advocacy/intfreedom/censorship
You never even heard of Tinker?
The Nazis are here folks - be ready
Yep. Anyone that says “fascism is coming” hasn’t been outside for a while. It’s already here.
They’ve been there a while, and it’s already too late.
here for decades. ever since after clintons presidency, and al gores win being snatched from him by the corrupted scotus. by the way it was gingrich that spearheaded the “never work with dems on the other side” and i think he was one of the people railing on clintion too. Mitch was basically his succesor.
