I mean, I’m sure you can name a half dozen or so people from the 1400s. I highly doubt anyone will remember me personally as one of those half dozen people, but I’m fairly certain that with the advances in technology the average people of the year 2625 will be dimly aware of closer to a dozen people alive today.
Not me.
But from this echo chamber, it surely seems like the current us president will live in infamy. Think about online debates over who was worst president ever: now it’s clear. And if he truly is accelerating the fall of the American century, then yes, he’ll be taught about ins cho for centuries to come
People might be if you eat the Mona Lisa.
They will if I eat the Mona Lisa
We’ll be all just data left. Unless someone really bored finds something amusing about certain data entry about somebody, no not really.
Someone will be remembered. It’s very unlikely to be me, unless human lifespans get a lot longer, which TBF they probably will.
Gorbachev will probably still be famous at some point after 3025, let alone 2625, although he might be forgotten and then popularised in between.
I will write a blog complaining about copper prices. If my sources are correct I will be remembered forever.
I don’t want to brag, but I’ve made a meme or two that got dozens of up votes. It’s basically immortality. I’m sure there will be statues and monuments of me by then.
Relative to a normal life, nobody knows me now… and with where and how I live that likely won’t change.
So definitely not, aside from the unlikely event I could get my head preserved (likely questionable testing). Then again I know in all likelihood that wouldn’t work, so I’m not sure getting a mention in some niche Wikipedia article would be the same as being remembered.
The people of nepal, probably. Remembered as a collective
The vast, vast majority of people are forgotten within 100 years. Pretty much need to be in an extremely high position where records are kept, like presidents, or do something extraordinarily positive or negative.
I strongly doubt anyone reading this post will be remembered after the people they met or interacted with directly have died.
I’m still alive and I’m already forgotten. 👌
Or be a really shitty copper merchant
Yeah, weird random chance makes a huge difference. Otzi was probably well known, but only hyper-regionally. Lucy was basically just an unusually smart animal, and that was millions of years ago.
And just because you’re forgotten for a bit doesn’t mean you won’t come back into style.
Hmm. So if you want 15 minutes of fame a long time from now, what’s some weird easter egg you can leave?
Buttplug
Archeologists actually dig up a lot of sex toys, believe it or not. That won’t get you noticed.
A time capsule with something that nobody else will think to preserve might do it. Way too many preserve things the future is actually meh about. I actually wonder if a weird data footprint might be even better at this point. Like, if you filled out some official form thousands of times just for fun, and someone a long time from now is doing analysis and turns it into a meme.
What sort of forms about buttplugs do we have?
I actually have a geneology book （族谱） from my paternal lineage (everybody does this in China). Its just a bunch of names, and some history of the village summarized. I hate tradition and I’m already in the US right now, I dont give a shit about the stupid geneology book anymore, my ancesters will probably be so pisses to find out that I totally ignored all the hard efforts lol. (My village still has a copy, but I’m not adding more name to the stupid thing, a waste of time, its also misogynistic AF, if there’s a daugher, then the lineage doesn’t record their decendents. So dumb, as I guy, I hate this patriarchal bullshit)
Some aspects of that tradition are commendable, though. It would be neat to see this updated in a less male-centric fashion.
Tradition is just peer pressure from dead people.
Sure, but what if the dead people are right? Statistically, they will be some share of the time.
The catch is that that goes for all the various disagreeing traditions. Putting priority on your own is sus.
Tradition is just narcissists convincing you to do things their way because change is ✨scary✨
With the U.S. only being 250 years old, I can’t say anyone would remember presidents in 600 years. If the U.S. is gone there will likely be mention of 1 president that was in power when whatever came and took/changed it. During the planetary destruction revolution there was a plethora of wasteful greed. They called it an industrial revolution that ran rampant with greed and wastefulness.
History preserved the names of heads of state from countries that had a much shorter existence or impact. 600 years might seem a long time to Americans but it’s not that long for historical memory.
Sure, then everything in history would be “remembered” forever… Except no one would know or care. To me, that is not remembered.
I would say Jesus is forgotten completely at this point even though he is written/read everywhere
We record these kinds of things in archives as they go along. Hell, we have records of Egyptian and Roman leadership going back centuries.
That’s quite sad tbh, we’re all just tiny specks on the timeline of humans
Perhaps but what is the value of human life? Being remembered of living and enjoying life? You won’t be around to care that no one remembers you, but you are here to enjoy life right now. So why be bothered by what people in 600 years are up to.
Fair point! We’re here to enjoy life now.
Im glad you replied what I was going to reply… just in a way more positive way :D
It’s your’s to make of it what you will. It doesn’t have to be sad. It’s pretty incredible any of us are here in the first place with how many conditions had to be present for life to even be on earth. And then we evolved from single cell organisms into these complex beings that we are today. It’s pretty fucking nuts and fascinating.
Yeah, it is incredibly fascinating.
I am 100% in favor of being forgotten, because trying to stand out in the sea of billions of people is a ridiculous expectation.
While that’s true, we have much more extensive record keeping these days. I’ve been researching my family tree, and 100 years ago there were still a decent number of people who were mostly illiterate. Add to that documents like the census being handwritten in cursive on paper, and you get lots of errors being recorded, and the records themselves being damaged by age.
Unless something drastic happens, a lot of our records will still exist in the centuries to come. It will mostly be our official records, but they should still be there :)
Is a name in a list really being remembered though?
It’s not just names in lists though. Using my mother’s grandparents as examples, I know where they were born and grew up, I know who they lived with at multiple points in their lives, and I know a few of the places where they lived.
I know where and when they got married, and some of the guests, and I know what children they had and when. As they were adults at the time, I know some of what my great grandfather was doing during the first World War and how he died.
I haven’t done a deep dive into their lives yet as I’ve been working backwards, but I’ve already got a decent idea about who they were and what they were like. I know a fair bit about his parents and family too, as I checked that side first.
The biggest issues are finding photos, and the cost and availability of records. There are not many photos due to them not being as pervasive at the time, and there are not many records because a lot of things either weren’t recorded or weren’t saved. Both of those can be solved with the technology we have now. Lots of people have their own information saved, separate to the official sources, and it’s easier to have multiple copies of everything, so they won’t get lost or destroyed as easily.
Hopefully this means that we’ll remember more of the past going forwards :)
No, and I’m thankful for that
Dude I’ll forget you ever existed when I leave this thread. Bye.
Gonna be awkward as fuck if there is an afterlife and you run into OP after you both expire.
The afterlife being on Lemmy isn’t the worst thing I can think of.
There’s a running phrase that gets’ mentioned a lot in the Peanuts comic strip: “500 years from now, who’ll know the difference?”
Just wanted to mention that. Peace ✌️
I imagine some archivists might find the lost fragments of this server is some ruins and by some miracle, maybe extract this very thread.
Hi to the future! 👋
We all will be living inside the weights of LLMs from this era.
Ok that’s actually an interesting use of AI. Train on only media from that time period. This is Daniel, from the year 1400. Tell me about the Catholic Church
This is basically how the persona AIs work. Some of them are focused on an individual, others are trained on a group of individuals.
I think I’m part of what makes it stupid tho :(
Fat chance, we’re not carving things on glass or stone. SSDs and HDDs lose their contents and are irrecoverable even within our own lifetimes
You are most likely right but it really depends on what we come up with in the future.
Yes. Or, they’ll get the thread with the awkward dog meme about a microwave. It’s beautiful to contemplate.
