• Zexks@lemmy.world
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    The world is the way it is now because too many people stopped studying. Learning shit isnt just for employment.

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      Eh, people didn’t stop studying but the corporate capture of our governments undercut our educational institutions. People still study, but the resources devoted to structured foundational learning (ie. public schools) are now devoted to wealth extraction (eg. shortform video platforms).

      Come on kids, lets learn all about how ivermectin enemas will cure your acne! [after this ad break]

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      Yeah. You need to study so that way you have the skills and knowledge they’re trying to teach you. With that knowledge you can

      Literature class: write decently well, interpret themes, messages, and intent in media, engage in critical thinking and use it to present an argument for your position, understand that other people have their own perspectives and be able to entertain those perspectives

      Math: think logically, understand relationships with numbers, understand the basics of how spacial dimensions interact, do all the minimum necessary math associated with citizenship as well as more that is likely to come up at some point in your life with at least the understanding required to pick it up again quickly after looking it up

      Science: basic understanding of how the physical world works so that when topics of science come up you have some framework with which to approach it, an understanding of the scientific method and the philosophy of empiricism (these are often taught very poorly ime), an understanding of how physical objects in this world interact with each other and the basics of what makes machines do things and why

      History: an understanding of what has happened before, trends and ideas from the past and their consequences, you’re supposed to learn from it not take it as an instruction guide, an understanding of how the world and society got to be like this, basic understanding of various philosophies of governance and ways the world has been viewed

      Government: as a citizen of a democracy you’re going to be given a share in its ownership when you reach the age of majority, you really should understand how it works and have a basic sense of your duties and the reasons for them as well as how the law works

      Foreign language: it’s just useful ok, and the second language is the hardest

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      People stopped studying because higher education was turned over to the corpos so it could be “optimized”.

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      The Who: The kids are alright

      The Offspring: The kids aren’t alright

      In this case I’d give it to the Who

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    When I was in high school we got to write an essay (or something like that, I don’t remember anymore) on some topic I didn’t have any opinions about, so I gave an empty sheet of paper with only my name on it. The teacher was really puzzled, an brought up this to me and my mom. She wondered why I didn’t cheat and copy something from the internet like a lot of my classmates did actually. We already had smartphones, it was around 2012-2013. I didn’t cheat because my parents taught me honesty, that was my answer to my teacher.

    Guess what? I got the lowest possible grade (essentially I failed this exam). People who cheated, and she knew they cheated got higher grades. Not that I’m complaining, I got the grade I deserved in my opinion. I would like to note that I wasn’t a lazy student or anything, it was this one time that I slipped up, and preferred to be honest about it.

    What school taught me is that cheating will get you further than honesty. If you can’t make it, fake it. This translated very well when I started working in a corporate environment.

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        I got something more important — a life lesson! It serves me well now that I work in a corporate environment and turns out school is not that different, some of the management in my company even gives me back memories of the kindergarden.

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      Oh, come on. If that were true, some of the people in our highest political offices would be incompetent morons who cheated their way into power!

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    Wrong community. This is for shitposts, not depressing factual information.

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    For some reason, I am starting to feel closer to the methods of Diogenes as I get older. If you’re not familiar with him, I suggest you read at least the intro on his Wikipedia page… actually, I’ll just copy it here:

    Diogenes the Cynic (/daɪˈɒdʒɪniːz/, dy-OJ-in-eez; c. 413/403 – c. 324/321 BC), also known as Diogenes of Sinope, was an ancient Greek philosopher during the period of Classical Greece, and one of the founders of Cynicism.

    Renowned for his ascetic lifestyle and radical critiques of social conventions, he became a legendary figure whose life and teachings have been recounted, often through anecdote, in both antiquity and modernity. Diogenes advocated for a return to nature, the renunciation of wealth, and introduced early ideas of cosmopolitanism by proclaiming himself a “citizen of the world”.

    Diogenes was born to a prosperous family in Sinope. His life took a dramatic turn following a scandal involving the debasement of coinage, an event that led to his exile and ultimately his radical rejection of conventional values. Embracing a life of poverty and self-sufficiency, he became famous for his unconventional, shameless behaviors that openly challenged societal norms, such as living in a jar or wandering public spaces with a lit lantern in daylight, claiming to be “looking for a man”, that is to say “for a wise man” (sophos).

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        He lived in a very large clay jar, which is actually not that uncommon in the Roman empire during the time that he lived. Almost everyone in the metropolitan areas of the Roman empire owned at least one such jar, and so homeless people would live in them in much the same way homeless people today might live in their cars or a tent. The reason it’s significant that Diogenes lived in one is that he did so by choice, as he had the wealth and social status to live quite comfortably if he wanted to.

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    Hey kids, don’t engage with society. It’s a lost cause. Get a shell, find an island, and start over. It’s so much better than this.

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      Or… you know… build a better society.

      Slowly, naturally and directly in your personal environment, where you have the most influence. Help out your neighbors. Build support groups for child care or start a local soup kitchen. There are so many great ways to implement mutual aid and solidarity amongst the people.

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        Slowly, naturally and directly in your personal environment, where you have the most influence.

        This is literally what wealthy people do and it greatly upsets of the non-wealthy.

        The rugged individualist lifestyle is most benefiticial to the wealthy. People in that mindset aren’t honest with themselves on all the ways they feed the machine.

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            Other rich people, yes. Their children are handed positions other work towards for decades.

            The point I’m trying to make is that think you can remove yourself from the machine by fucking off into nature plays to their favor.

            Also, not doing things because the wealth do it, is reactionary. What matters is who; extend the hand beyond one’s tight socioeconomic group, reach downward and pull up.

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              The person you replied to wasn’t talking about fucking off I tk nature. They were talking about building a better world.

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    Apparently the only option is grow up > get soulless job working for big corporate entity which produces no value for anyone except shareholders

    I assume big corp makes widgets that are then immediately discarded