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    Are all Republicans this childish and petty?

    Edit: And this is the official White House account as well.

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      This is what they want. See, Trump is utterly destroying America’s economy and nucleus of global hegemony. The people are in for increasingly tough circumstances as China just stops trading with America, and all previous allies start to shun the country. Trump is trying to grow the US military to start his fascist wars of conquest both south and north. This will also put the people in increasingly dire circumstances, both with the massive amount of death involved in such a conflict and in the mass reallocation of resources towards war efforts. He can’t talk about those things openly to the people because he’d have to admit their lives are going to get significantly worse. So, what can he do instead?

      He can do the same thing he’s been doing the entire time. Build a fervore for ethnic cleansing and eugencist racialist politics. The people are trained to lap it up without even thinking, and they get genuinely itchy for their next fix. Who’s the minority we’re hating today? Who’s the person of color we’re going to commit vile acts of cruelty on today? Where do I direct my homicidal rage at the threat to my inherent superiority today? This is how they are. Every single day, Fox News, Twitter, and the White House all come together to deliver. They fill the bowl, and the bigots heads are down gorging themselves on it while their own lives are horrifically torn apart around them.

      It doesn’t matter what else he’s doing. He’s fighting DEI. He’s putting black people and women in their place. He’s making immigrants, muslims, jews, and the queers afraid again. His support base is unyielding. We know they will never yield because fascists never do. Even decades after the end of World War 2, many former SS and former Nazi supporters STILL thought Hitler was sent from God and that everything he did was right. Even as Soviet bombs were falling on their heads. The ardent supporters of fascism will support it literally until they die. They loved that Hitler was committing genocide. They loved that he was cruel and inhuman. They admired how the image he portrayed so neatly fit with their patriarchal worldview. Its why they supported him to begin with. Economy this, nationalism that, but down to the line it was all about cruelty.

      Are the people who support these kinds of tweets petty and childish? Absolutely they are. This isn’t even about pettiness though. This is what they voted for. They voted for people of color to suffer. They voted for immigrants to suffer. If it came out tomorrow that he died in that hellhole they’d all cheer.

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      Remember when you have been 16 and you fell for every single rage bait there is on the internet, wasting your next 2-3 years on defending gaming and your virginity from SJWs and radical feminism?

      Imagine you never grew out of that. That’s your modern day republican.

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      Childish and petty? Or “winning”?

      I feel like a corner piece of the puzzle of MAGA is feeling like some how sending a brown Maryland father to El Salvador makes them feel better about their shitty lives. It’s a superiority thing.

      And some how Trump and Fox News have convinced them that they share in the victories of guys like Mush and Trump enriching themselves.

      My mom said something completely asinine (and factually false) once.

      “I’m way too successful to be a Democrat.”

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        If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.

        • Lyndon Johnson
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      They’re actually not.

      A lot of them are, and definitely the ones online 24/7.

      But trump having the actual official White House communicate like this does add up and will hurt Republican votes.

      trump isoving to fast and it’s what’s gonna end up stopping it. It’s why I hate when people act like trump is the problem, if he died today Vance takes over and they do the same evil shit, just smarter about it

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        While not the problem, Trump is still a problem. Vance doesn’t command the loyalty of the cult in the same way that Trump does. His closest successor in that regard is Musk.

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          If trump dies in office he doesn’t have to have cult backing.

          But he is more conservative than HW, and HW got the win after Reagan.

          Vance was groomed to lead this movement he even got set up with his wife by the “Tiger Mom” at Yale and then she got the wife SC clerkships.

          People are underestimating Vance just like they did trump

          Hillary pushed him to run because she thought he’d be the worst, and it backfired spectacularly. Don’t assume Vance can’t grab the reigns when crazier shit is literally happening as I type this.

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            Vance was groomed to lead this movement

            If you want some fun tin-foil conspiracy thing, there’s one I heard that I both find entirely plausible AND actually believe.

            Basically, when (not an if) Trump dies or is otherwise removed, Vance will come out as the ‘We’ve had a hard time, what with our last president being a batshit insane rot brained moron. I’m going to undo the worst of his decisions, and get MAGA back on Track’.

            And presto, we now have moved to the competent dear leader part of this whole play, and everyone from creepy neocons to the bleeding heart-ist liberals will applaud and say what a lovely thing this is, and all this change is good!

            Except it’s the same shit, just sane washed, because it’s not hard to be LESS insane than the Tangerine.

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      The boomers are dying off.

      They’ve decided to go after the edge lord young men for their next voter base.

      Unfortunately it appears to be working.

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    The fact an official gov channel is posting this kind of childish shit is abhorrent and embarrassing. If I pulled shit like this at my job I’d be thrown out. Fucking slime.

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      Not just government – the official White House account. It’s… dystopian…

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        It’s… dystopian…

        We’ve already used up our big words in February. Supercynical “I have no words” in March.

        Now, the horror getting worse every day has become the new normal coming out of the US, every day, steady as a slow machine gun.

        Had I known how much worse it’s going to get I’d have saved up some words during the first months.

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        Nah in Dystopias the megacorps and evil governments tend to be intelligent and refined with armored limousines and some sense of style, even the glutenous autocrat steriotype tends to have a kind of weird refinement or at least be intelligent enough to not be ridiulous in public, or at least in the presence of a large number of guys with guns who can look meaningfully at anyone who might laugh.

        What this is, is some weird idiocracy shit only without any of the redeeming characteristics of the people in that film.

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          Actually, dystopia is basically a ‘bad’ (dys-) ‘place’ (-topia). So the common view of what a dystopia looks like is not the only way it can look. Being ruled by dumb toddlers that break everything in their way is a very different dystopia than one with evil megacorps but it is still quite dystopian to me.

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          Thank you for using Idiocracy in the correct context. I hate always seeing it used as-is without any caveats.

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      I don’t know how to express this feeling I have properly so bear with me. I kinda hate the reference of political office as a job. It’s not really a job. It’s a position of societal power. One that should come with, frankly, deadly consequences when people in that position of power start talking like this. This is a branch of the government saying fuck the courts and their decision. There should be blood over that. Equating it to a job just rubs me wrong. Not to shit on you, I have no problem with what you said, I agree with it even. Just expressing general thoughts

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        Yeah, a duty to hundreds of millions of people and the future, that one has to volunteer for and convince a plurality of their fitness for… not just a job that you should be able to neglect, let alone subvert.

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        Comments like this get deleted off reddit and the user flagged by the admins.

        Btw I’m new here

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        Bro you aren’t shitting on my post at all and I 100 percent agree.

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        That’s actually how democracy is understood in France ! The office you hold is a privilege and a responsibility : executive power delegated to you by the will of the people, underpinned by the rule of law.

        You know your country political idea/marketplace of idea is turning to shit when the majority yearn for a providential man that will fix all their problem with the magic wand of repression and prejudice.

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      I didn’t notice who posted it on X until I read your comment and I just…I’m shocked I am shocked by this because I feel like I’ve been getting numb to the stupidity of the last ~4 months

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    Imagine official government account tweeting shit like edgy teenager. How can any country of the world take America seriously?

    Also they themselves admitted it was a mistake and now thry are furiously claiming he was achtually a drug warlord and he’s not coming back to USA. They aren’t fucking serious.

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    Omg. I just realized this is really from The white house???!!??

    I thought this was some stupid meme… Omg

    I just can’t even…omg

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        Oh dear fuck i looked at it and they made a covid.gov site that claims that covid originated from lab in Wuhan and was leaked. That fringe conspiracy now being peddled by the white house.

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          That’s actually not unlikely, but the way china handles critical information we will never be sure.

          I imagine they also have other false claims on there that are much worse though.

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            Yeah, it’s one thing to make it known that it is a possible explanation, it’s another to claim that it is a fact without evidence.

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          A service that proxies and cleans xitters content so musk doesn’t get the money from the few advertisers left in that cesspool

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            It also enables a few of the older features, like being able to read replies to a Tweet, now that the website formerly known as Twitter bars it if you’re not logged in.

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      You’re not alone. I see this shit and I say aloud “woww” and pass my phone to my partner. I’ve never seen such unhinged shit from the official white house communications team.

      This is stuff any self-respecting 15yo would be embarrassed to post. I know they have been posting other cringey memes recently too. Seems like the person managing the account came straight from 4chan.

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    The most heavily armed country in the world is run by someone with the emotional intelligence of a rhubarb and a cohort of sycophants. This is gonna bode well.

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      Yeah send me the meme bro, i dont see the muricans getting their guns yet, they have to be starving

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          I will watch it on tikkyok for the lolz, through some kind of non tikytoky interface that protects me from elon musk or google or whoever owns the stream. Maybe eztv.

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    That official White House X-account is really something. The utter shamelessness combined with the harrowing inhumanity would make Goebbels blush.

    At the same time it is so honest and clear about the Trump administration’s perspective on things it’s refreshing. They don’t hold back, there is no secret agenda, they just put it all out in the open for the Americans and the whole world to see. They really feel invincible.

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      Would be shame if someone used it as evidence in a contempt hearing or impeachment trial.

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          I think that judges have had enough. Boasberg of DDC has already released a criminal contempt order and by the looks of it, Xinis of Maryland district is also getting pretty pissed.

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            The question, though, is what the judiciary is going to do with these seemingly inevitable contempt rulings. Let’s just say I’m not terribly excited about the prospect of fines unless that’s just the opening salvo.

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      I just hope they alienate enough people fast enough that we can see an actual effective check to this rogue administration. They’re taking a lot of power pretty fast but also burning a lot of bridges.

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        I don’t see how this attempt to speed-run a dictatorship is going to work well for them. You’re supposed to turn up the heat slowly, so the frog doesn’t notice that they’re boiling until it’s too late.

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        I’m afraid they might burn more than bridges if they are opposed by an actual effective check.

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      Because they know something the rest of us don’t - that they will never have to pander for votes ever again, because there will never be another election on the country.

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      I wouldn’t say there is no secret agenda. It’s clear the administration is not in the loop of what the secret agenda is. Their blatant anti-everything-non-white and overall incompetence and ignorance is enough right now to keep the divide and conquer going.

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    They had their chance to show MS 13 gang membership in court, and failed. Screaming it over from podiums/media doesn’t make it true, or a basis for jail/death camps.

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    Let’s do some fact checking.

    THEY said he was wrongly deported. Repeatedly. And refused to do anything about it.

    Our jackass Attorney General shared a link recently that said he had “no criminal background” and there’s been no actual evidence that shows he was in MS-13.

    And while I’m not sure of his technical, official status, I would say somebody who was allowed to stay in the United States by a judge because of dangers back home, isn’t consider an illegal alien any more, but a political refugee who has asylum in our country.

    You have to wonder if this whole thing is just a petty attempt at retribution by Trump, because this guy was allowed to stay in the country the first time.

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      You have to wonder if this whole thing is just a petty attempt at retribution by Trump, because this guy was allowed to stay in the country the first time.

      I think it’s simpler than that. Bringing him back would show they did something wrong, and that’s obviously impossible, because he’s the second coming of Prosperity Gospel Jesus.

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          It would also mean we’d have a witness able to report on the prison’s conditions. And the administration can say he’s lying, but when there’s no other source of information about it, people are going to hear him out.

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          Yes. Fascism is about normalizing treating outsiders as non-human. To do this you expand your crimes step by step. Justifying and normalizing each step. And you don’t have to do it for long. You just move onto the next worse thing quickly.

          There was a really good, almost poetic, video that covered this just as Trump took office. It’s been a good reminder for me to keep my compass and perspective.

          https://youtu.be/0YFdwfNh5vs

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      It’s even worse than that: he’s testing the boundaries.

      He’s testing if he can get away with deporting an innocent man. He’s testing if he can ignore the Supreme Court without consequences. He’s testing if the Salvadorian president will stand firm and be his good little concentration camp boy.

      If they are successful, it means they can imprison ANYONE they want to.

      If they are successful, our Bill of Rights is about to come crashing down.

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        If they are successful, our Bill of Rights has come crashing down. Past tense!

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      He has a legal status similar to refugee, but not technically the same because he didn’t apply for asylum within a year of entering.

      So yeah, not an illegal alien. Legal resident.

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        To get more technical, he had the kind of residency that has a higher standard than being an asylum seeker that prohibits them from being deported to the country they are from.

        El Salvador was the ONLY place he was not allowed to be deported to.

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      His official status wasn’t asylum per se, but his status was he could be deported ANYWHERE BUT EL SALVADOR if the courts deemed fit. Which he was not deported through the courts, and they sent him to El fucking Salvador, the one place it would be illegal to send him to.

      This whole situation has me so pissed off, this country sucks.

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        They didn’t mean for this to happen.

        Like hell. Especially since they’re talking openly about kidnapping citizens and political opponents and sending them to the same fate.

        The only incompetence was not having their messaging figured out beforehand.

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    The MAGA-sect comments are really frightening. Big resemblance to the Waffen-SS supporters like back in the day.

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      Part of how you know that no one they send there is going to actually be a gang member or terrorist or anything like that. Those guys wouldn’t be going without a fight. And with no due process and no chance of ever getting out, it’s not like they have anything to lose.

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        Fascists are cowards and will only fight when they are certain of victory.

        That’s why “it’s ok to punch a Nazi” was an effective deterrent.

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          Only fighting when you’re certain of victory is actually the smart way of doing combat. Nothing to do with fascists or cowards.

          I think what you mean is that they will only pick on the weak and indefensible. That’s what’s going on. This isn’t even a fight, they are snapping them off the street without warning. And it isn’t a victory either, as they are fast tracking mass outrage.

          We’re being played, as is always the case with Trump. He’s dictating the things we get outraged by, day by day. He wants the outrage, because he needs the pretext for Martial Law. That’s the fight he wants, and the victory they seek: total consolidation of power, so he can crown himself king.

          Hitler too, only had a vocal minority before he rose to power.

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      Yeah I see that pic pop up a lot but I have yet to see the news about a huge shout-out between ice and immigrants

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        Because ICE is targeting people who aren’t likely to be armed. As the net broadens and they start targeting more explicitly based on political affiliation, gender, etc. rather than just race, they’ll start running into people who will shoot back

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          Because ICE is targeting people who aren’t likely to be armed.

          Exactly: did you know that MS-13 is the world’s only pacifist street gang? It’s true!

          (It’s not true. The fact that your comment is correct is another way you can tell the claim that the kidnappees are gang members is a lie.)

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        Hey DuckDuckGo, what percentage of Venezuelan and El Salvadoran immigrants are hardcore gun owners in the US? Oh.

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        They know, that’s why the oligarchs will prop another one.

        I am of the opinion that Trump is a pazi should shit hits the fan. The billionaires-- the true rulers-- will be scot free if the American people decide to rise up.

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        Yes, but have you ever seen a vice president as visible and vocal as this one?

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          That’s a good point, but I don’t think Vance has the charisma to step into Trump’s boots. For all of Donald’s faults, and there are many, he is a very charismatic person. He has (or had depending on his level of senility) a natural skill at making people around him like him when he wants to. I don’t think Vance has those skills and without Trump to rally around MAGA as we know it won’t live past Trump. Now a form neo-MAGA can emerge, or it can crumble but thankfully JD doesn’t have what it takes to carry Trump’s torch.

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            If the system gets rigged enough, Trump won’t be necessary. Cultists will not drop their position and they have infinite money and all the media to keep this “magic” going.

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            I obviously have a different definition of “charismatic” to many other people, because Trump has zero charisma in my eyes. He was repugnant in the 80s and he’s repugnant today.

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              That’s because you’re not a vapid narcissist who only ever uses people and are probably a boring regular everyday person who can see that bullshit from a mile away. I still think he has high charisma, but yeah he’s definitely not rolling 30s like other big personalities.