I wanted to buy something second-hand. Unfortunately, Facebook Marketplace is the shit where I live. So I thought I could quickly register, contact the seller, and delete my account afterwards.
However, I refuse to participate in this insanity. Video selfie my ass, Facebook.
“We, a company that has allowed AI generated propaganda to run rampant and destabilize global politics, need to make sure you are a real person so you must provide us with a video proving you are real that we totally wont use for AI and facial recognition purposes.”
I 100% trust this, Zuckerberg is fine upstanding man
Yup. I can attest that he’s never said about his users, “dumb fucks trust me”
I quit facebook 10 years ago. I am 67. If this old fart can quit so can you.
Don’t make it easier for the american fascist government to identify you even further on Facebook.
I am now, and will forever remain, a child of the old internet.
When your username was all that other people knew about you, and you didnt even like them having that for anonymity reasons, lol.
I continue to be baffled about how people on the internet went from “Don’t tell anyone, anything about you!” to "Hi My name is Dan Rutherford, I like at 5849 Blasse Rd, in Tarry Birch,Kenfucky. Heres a picture of myself, my wife, my children, and a list of everything expensive I have in the house. Also my childs bedroom window wont lock. Anyway, we’re going on a 3 week european vacation now! Expect hourly updates!
PS: Heres my birthday, and my childhood elementary school, where I was born, and the name of my childhood dog. In case anyone needs to answer my security questions"
Fb is nothing more than promoting right wing propaganda.
Let them continue filling the site with bots. Dont use that garbage.
To confirm your identity…
Yeah, bullshit. This is to help train their facial recognition AI.
I mean, it’s a bit of both.
I don’t think they care if you’re real anymore
They care quite a bit.
Bots and spammers make for miserable revenue generators. If you don’t distinguish your marks from your players, there’s no way to make money at the poker table.
I would agree with this if Zuck hadn’t been in the news recently talking about how Meta is desperately filling their userbase with bots, on purpose
There is a big difference between bots you control and use for you own gain, and bots that someone else owns and uses for their gain
Their point still stands - the bots need to know who to target to generate revenue, otherwise they waste your money.
I would agree with this and in fact I do
~ Mitch Hedberg
Can’t really be a bit of both because they can’t confirm shit if they don’t know what you look like in the first place. It could be to confirm that you are human (and maybe that you don’t already have an account) but they can’t confirm your “identity”.
Sadly they totally can. There are plenty of face databases already that they could use if they wanted[1], but if you have friends on Facebook (or Instagram) you might be in their pictures and Facebook run it’s facial recognition on every picture. Whether they can connect that to an identity or not isn’t something I know, but it’s not out of the realm of possibility.
Tangentially related, I remember over ten years ago getting notified that I could tag myself in friends uploaded pictures that I was in, which was also when I started to get really creeped out by Facebook.
I remember this podcast about some https://www.searchengine.show/should-this-creepy-search-engine-exist/ but there is a decent amount of reporting about them ↩︎
and if they find or know a way to sell that with the other data colleted from you, they will proudly do it
It’s deff KYC bullshit first and fore most. Training data is a cherry
Kyc requirements are for banks
Yeah banks and other financial institutions are elegally madated to do it.
Social media does it for “fun”
this is not a kyc requirement imposed on facebook based on laws, but by facebook based on their ToS.
I get it. They want to combat bots and potentially even detect if a person is old enough to use the platform. However Facebook has eroded absolutely any trust that there’s no way I’d give them this. Not that I use Facebook anyway.
There’s no way they want to combat bots. You report bot content and they’re like “nah, this doesn’t go against our community guidelines” all the fucking time.
What do you expect from a company that removed independent fact-checkers, wanted to add AI profiles as users, amongst other things? I think they relish bots and the engagement they bring to the platform, completely blind-sided by how bad it looks for them long-term.
I don’t even think they care about image. That was early-game for them. Now they’ve scooped so much data on people that they could probably close Facebook and still manage to track people based on metadata and shadow profiles.
I’d kind of think it would be in their interest to, not because they give a shit about what their end users think, but what their customers (advertisers) think. I’d imagine that advertisers are paying x amount to reach real humans that can spend money, so if it turns out that businesses are paying to advertise to bots then I can’t see them being too happy about that. Not unless they’re upfront with businesses and they tell them that x% of their user base is bots and they’ll only charge them to advertise to real people.
I honestly don’t even think advertisers give a shit anymore. If people keep buying what they’re pushing, all they see is dollar signs. If anything, the whole “advertiser doesn’t like this” thing is just some sort of scapegoat.
Like, look at YouTube - you’re telling me that somehow the company pushing some products that nobody gives a fuck about is horribly offended because a guy in a video said “Shitfuck McPussyCock” three seconds in; but they have no issue with the hatred, misinformation spreading, and general stupidity of people like Tim Poole, Ben Shapiro, Crowder, and that other dipshit with the beard and glasses (whose name I have actually thankfully forgotten)?
The thing to understand about large organizations is that appearances matter a lot and the people working in them have to look busy. This is well known phenomenon among low level employees but it applies to managers and even executives too (who have to put on a show that they’re increasing shareholder value and that their company is special somehow).
So, why do advertisers care if someone says “fuck” but not about someone whose spewing pseudointellectual misogynistic bullshit? Because there’s someone whose job description is “brand value” and if they’re not upset about something then they don’t look busy. The amount of “fucks” per minute is a really simple metric that (now that speech recognition is as good as it is) is really easy to measure. In other words its an easy way to look busy.
Of course it doesn’t hurt that the guy’s boss is probably a conservative anyway, and so doesn’t mind the misogyny so much, but looking busy is the main reason.
Zuckerborg is literally promoting bot “friends”
its not even about it, probably more data to tie to you and sell to data brokers, facebook feed most of the time wont even prioritize to show your friends posts instead will show posts from pages that paid Facebook to advertise, its literally no longer what it used to be for a few years already and probably why they were all in for having a separate messenger app for Facebook so those who find more convenient not to quit will just keep using it to maintain contact with people through it while keeping their accounts
I left Facebook in 2009 or 2010 or so, but I attempted to register a facebook account for my business over the weekend. I can confirm, it wanted a selfie of my business. Wasn’t sure what to do with that, so I still don’t have a facebook account for my business.
Leaving in 2010 was a great choice. I feel like I stayed on way too long only getting rid of it in 2020.
It was the “baby - sandwich - dog” era. Super easy decision at the time 😁
Literally over ten years ago, they wanted a photo of my government ID.
Haven’t had an account since
Literally over ten years ago, they wanted a photo of my government ID
I sent in a fake one, they accepted it.
same happened with me then a few other friends which made it easier to convince them to leave Facebook
For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I’ve never had a Facebook. Now being absent on that platform and others is seen as suspicious. I got a buddy who couldn’t complete a job application because Facebook was a mandatory field in the electronic form. The border Gestapo and the State Department require your socials for visa applications. A friend told me that she wouldn’t date a guy without socials because she browses them as a kind of background check.
Fuck Meta.
Most of those are indeed bullshit since authorities have better platforms and businesses don’t need to know your private info.
But women doing background checks to see what kind of men they are dating on the only platforms they have access to is just security. You can even leave your accounts info fully locked except for friends.
No, it’s quite healthy to each having their private account they don’t share with their partner. Guess what the reverse is.
Huh
Edit: apparently I’ve angered people by not knowing what this means. It sounds like multiple levels of sarcasm but whatever
I don’t follow either. It sounds like they’re talking about couples making joint Facebook accounts, which is a complete non-sequitur from all the comments before it.
But I might be wrong, as it seems a lot of people understand something that we’re missing. Would anyone that understands this better mind giving some clarification?
For years people have given me the blinking stare of unbelief when I tell them I’ve never had a Facebook.
The same people who two decades ago would have look at you sideways for using internet to talk with strangers. These idiots always conform to what is popular.
Apparently you’re a modern horror story.
That’s a generational thing. 99% of my friends and people of my age I know have never had Facebook.
Instagram, however…Too old or too young?
Too young. Most facebook users are actually boomers nowadays.
Same, I always assume the worst with big companies and/or data.
They were always scummy.
Never gave my name or info, never been on social platforms unless there was a good reason to be on them.
Last time my buddy sent me a Facebook link, it wouldn’t let me view it without giving them my phone number. I did not.
You can scroll around a tiny bit vefore you are forced to make an account. This is good because it prevents new joiners.
Not on mobile I couldn’t. Full screen prompt for my phone number. No way out but to put it in or just close it.
Might be different for different styles of content.
It could be. It was a video.
Only on desktop, I believe
I cant view any of the info on events that use facebook since it blocks me after 1 page change and a bit of scroll on phone either.
I am shocked and apalled that there exist extentions that allow you to scrub ads from youtube but nobody has figured out how to access facebook without an account.
I’d imagine it’s far more difficult (and possibly illegal) to forcibly gain access to a website that denies access until you log in or register. Maybe there could be an extension that creates throwaway accounts for you to use, but I’m not aware of any myself.
I wonder if it’s possible to register a VOIP number for free and use it for Facebook. I haven’t tried it myself.
It would just be blocking a popup
I truly don’t know either way, but it would be laughable of them if the only thing that blocks unregistered users from loading more content is a pop-up. I’ve gotten through forced pop-ups with uBlock’s block element tool in the past.
Well, we are talking about a company that can’t make desktop messenger show message requests…
Discord does this for logging in from different places a lot which is bonkers to me how many people dont care about it, it doesnt even matter if you have TOTP 2FA activated, they still try to gaslight the need for phone number is for “security”
Who is actually creating a legitimate Facebook account at this point?
I moderate a few groups on Facebook, and every account I see for new members that was created within the last few years is a spammer. The people who wanted Facebook accounts already have them. Very very few actual human beings are signing up for new legitimate accounts at this point.
Facebook should just close the new account option. They’re working toward AIs talking to each other and won’t need human interaction any more anyway.
I deleted my Facebook account in 2010 after my college English professor forced us to use it for an assignment. He thought he was hip; I thought it was disgusting. Anyway fast forward a dozen years and like OP says basically the only way to buy and sell used shit now is through FB marketplace. I was willing to create an account just for that, but when they wanted my phone number I said nope no way. This video selfie thing is so much worse.
i dint create one because of that too, when i used a some temp email, the account was autobanned for 6months. then i found a way to bypass thier login popups, because i just wanted to see some posts.
boomers, and right wingers. i used to follow somed asian yotubers who fled to facebook, because it was easier to control content, and criticism, since they cant do anything to subreddits, and yes they brigaded the subs about them to shut down any controversy about them.
They’ve been advertising it hard to the zoom zooms since they were born after the window where it was just assumed that everyone had Facebook
You can bypass this via https://github.com/hacksider/Deep-Live-Cam. You can get the faces needed from https://thispersondoesnotexist.com/. Although if you are privacybro, there’s no documentation yet for running Deep Live Cam on Linux. This method is more private than using phone numbers since you can do this with disposable emails.
use a VPN in Helsinki with fake ID to create a Facebook page so I can buy a used pushmower in Tennessee.
2025, everyone.
Modern problems require modern solutions! Thanks.
We don’t need documentation where we’re going 🌈
Oh, sweet. Not using Facebook, but that’s nice !
There are no more excuses, people who say that these services are easier to use are stupid
Hey! No I’m doesn’t! 😠
The dickvid potential is there.
Oh HELL no
Video selfie my ass
That probably won’t work, since they expect your face. Worth a try, though.
just do a face swap thingy
