Sounds like they were playing at Charlie Kirk memorial field
Same people who build summer camps for children in a known active flood plain.
Everybody born in the land of the free ™ ©️* knows this is no place for a ball park, but instead it’s perfect for a school yard.
*Conditions apply
There isn’t even an actual gun range; just an empty field people are known shoot guns at. And the outrage seems misplaced that the baseball diamond should be shutdown instead of shutting down dipshits firing guns in the field next to it.
Shooting is America’s real pastime after all.
Listed in maps as a shooting range… For the Katy police department…
What a fucked up backwards country
OH Texas. That explains it.
People in a field shoot without reguard to what’s in the direction of the bullets they are firing. Kids flee, a coach is shot and someone thought they should blame the baseball field builders lol. Mate if you fire a gun and there is any reasonable belief that bullet can strike something other than your target, you should be charged with shooting at that object.
To me that means attempting to kill that coach/kids.
If you fire a gun, you are 100% responsible for the bullet, full stop.
What if you’re at a paid indoor range and your bullet goes through the back stop wall because the range cheaped out?
I said 100% and I meant 100%.
It’s literally the (tort) law. I don’t think the armchair lawyers here understand anything
If you’re defending\agreeing with Triumph, I don’t think you understand tort law.
Literally just had a case in my Tort Law class about this very thing. I think you don’t know anything at all.
I know in my scenario under tort, the gun range or someone further down in the construction of the range would be found liable, and not the shooter.
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A question was asked. I answered it. Please indicate where I was “unwilling[] to reason”.
… The part where a shooter is always 100% responsible for the bullet.
That’s because that’s true.
Especially if the bullet doesn’t full stop into the target or a barrier behind it.
@[email protected] points out that the barrier had nothing to do with it.
1oo% true. and yet… who would build a a base ball park right next to a gun range?! not saying they are at fault, but like …really? there must be something i don’t know, like was it an indoor range?
@[email protected] points out that the barrier had nothing to do with it.
The outdoor range points away from the baseball field.
i mean ok, i get it. but OOF. i see also that the shooting wasn’t even at the gun range. still seems like a weird place to constantly hear gun fire during your kids little league game
Far west of Houston? All those kids are used to guns already.
Which one was built first?
Sounds like they are getting charged
The Waller County Sheriff’s Office said it was now pursuing dangerous conduct charges against three people suspected of firing off guns nearby.
Coming at you every mother fucking DAYAYAA!!!
Offer solutions please, not more criticism. Your divisive, reductive meme highlights the problem described in OP’s article but does nothing else. Please be better.
Solutions to the field where they shoot guns or to Texas? The field is easy, force them to build a dirt rampart around where they shoot. Texas, not so sure.
Build a dirt rampart around Texas?
Who builds a gun range in a way that bullets can escape if shot from appropriate positions?
I am pretty sure this is the gun range and you’re supposed to shoot in the direction of the blue arrow. That big mound of earth is where the targets would be and is supposed to catch stray bullets. Something tells me that redneck fuckery was involved.
Found it on Google maps, I think I was right.
It’s frankly amazing that this very pertinent information you revealed after the briefest of Google searches isn’t included in the “official” reporting.
Hey!
HEY!
Journalism is hard, ok?
jfc what a joke
JFC they were shooting uprange to make this happen
Supposedly the shooters weren’t on that property at all.
Either fuckery, or a ricochet. My first time shooting tracers was eye-opening to how much bullets bounce around. This guy shooting a 50-cal is hit in his earmuffs after the berm launches the round back at him.
To keep enough velocity and stay at a consistent height and ricochet in that direction seems much less likely than they were just shooting in the wrong direction.
I agree that fuckery is the most likely explanation in this case. However, ricochets do not need to remain at a constant height or velocity to hurt someone. A round bounced backward and arched just enough to clear the treeline would be enough. I’m kinda shocked an outdoor range would be allowed this close to those fields. Regardless of physical danger, imagine concentrating on playing ball while gunshots ring out in an adjacent lot!
Don’t bother to comment out speculation if you haven’t even bothered to read the article and watch the video. Like 30 bullets didn’t ricochet 500+ yards away into a baseball field.
My point is not that heavy volume is required for this to happen, and it’s strange how you could jump to that conclusion.
Instead, a higher rate of fire gives more opportunities to witness anomolies between shots, within a given time. Combine this with tracers, and now you can easily follow these paths, before and after each bullet hits it’s initial target.
With a 6000 round-per-minute minigun, even if you only see one tracer bounce away every second, that demonstrates a 1% chance for every round to deflect and hit somewhere unintended.
Considering that the tracers are normally spaced out on a belt, with other rounds between them; the sample size can be reduced further, and this chance becomes multiple times higher.
When yearly machine-gun shoots were still hosted in Knob Creek, Kentucky, the range staffed people left and right of the firing line with fire extinguishers. After the ‘finale’ occurred and weapons were cleared, they would run out onto the hills beside the range.
With multiple miniguns firing alongside other automatics, and the insane number of rounds fired downrange, it was inevitable to have more than enough hot tracers land in the brush of these hills to start multiple small fires.
The possibility of ricochet injury is simply matter of probability. Sure, I would never claim this is the most probable explanation, but it’s silly to claim there’s absolutely no chance this could happen.
Cool write up. Ricochet bullets can’t travel that far, and it’s the wrong direction.
I’ve already posted a video of a complete trajectory reversal. Maybe you didn’t watch it, but otherwise you’re being stubbornly ignorant choosing to completely ignore video evidence. Also, a 1/2 mile really isn’t far for something moving over 3000 ft/s. It’s clear you’re not speaking from an educated position on this topic.
There is no amount of Ricochet on this Earth that would result in this.
If you’ve seen tracer fire in real life, I doubt you would keep that position. The fact that a falling bullet traveling at terminal velocity is enough to kill or injure someone, combined with the fact that bullets travel for miles would instantly tell you otherwise. Watch tracers fired at night and you can see how frequent ricochets are when hitting a mix of rocks in dirt. The last video I shared already demonstrated that complete trajectory reversals are even possible, not that this is even required in this circumstance.
The baseball field is only about 1/2 mile from the range backstop (about 22% of a 5.56 bullet’s maximum range). All it would take is a rock plowed up into an inopportune position on the berm to set off a freak accident. Now, as I’ve said in another comment, I absolutely don’t believe this is the most likely explanation; however, to discount it as an impossibility is ignorant.
The range of a round when fired and the range of a round after it hits a rock and bounces are two incredibly vastly different things. Also nobody’s talking about a bullet falling from the sky. Look at where that range is look at the angle from which they’re firing and look at where the baseball field is. There is no possibility a Ricochet fired at that range could bounce back into that baseball field like they claim. It’s not possible.
I think he made a good case for it being possible. That baseball field really isn’t far away from a bullet’s perspective. He mentioned his first time shooting tracers, which makes me think he has a lot of real life experience shooting FMJ bullets and seeing them ricochet. He posted videos showing ricochets, you can see them maintaining almost all of their momentum.
The issue isn’t the distance, though I think it’s further than you think, it’s angle. You can see where the range is. You can see where the baseball field is. It’s not possible. The JFK bullet couldn’t do this. He made a good case for ricochets being a thing that happens, not in this case.
They didn’t, the headline is shit and they shouldn’t have included that quote, because the gunfire came from a property that wasn’t the gun range.
The article says that the people who were shooting weren’t on the shooting range property, so it was probably just some morons shooting guns in an unsafe location who and direction who can’t be bothered to use the shooting range. Hopefully the range, were they to actually use it as intended, has proper berms and backstops to keep any rounds from going an unsafe direction.
Who builds a range, especially in Texas, without knowing that 99.999% of the people using it are going to be stupid and reckless because they think their firearms compensate for all their many inadequacies?
Never been to a range where the Range Safety Officer (RSO) wouldn’t rip your fucking head off for the slightest fuckery, kick you out, ban you for life, first offense.
And fuck you very much BTW. I enjoy learning ballistics first hand, the mechanics are at the edge of what my brain can handle, refurbishing crap guns pushes my restoration limits and knowledge, and it’s just plain fun.
Also, my dick is 7.5". Nothing to write home about, but I haven’t felt inadequate about that in life.
But a Sheriff’s Office spokesperson told Houston Public Media that the suspected shooters were actually not on that property during the incident.
The gunshots didn’t come from the gun range at all.
Before opening this article… Let me guess? Texas
Update: Yep Texas
In Texas. Of course.
They should just supply every Texan with bulletproof armour and helmets and make it mandatory that they should wear them at all times … because there is a high likelihood that they might get shot either intentionally or accidentally.
As a non-American, it sounds like this should be the uniform issued at birth or at least when (if?) kids reach school age. I say “if” because vaccines are being outlawed. Technically body armour is just another kind of vaccine though, no?
This is the most 'merican thing I’ve read all day
My area has a playground built to accommodate disabled children and the adjacent property is a gun range. There are also soccer fields. Imagine children going down the slide and swinging and kicking the ball around all to the sound of not-so-distant gunfire. The 200 meter range even shoots towards the soccer fields.
Americans?
