So their not shutting down, just focusing on AI idiots until the bubble busts and then they will turn back to consumers…
Rules of Acquisition #1,261-- Always fuck over the idiots in the market. And when you’ve taken all their money, go back to your base with inflated prices.
I just installed a 4TB nvme Crucial SSD in my new build solely to put games on.
I’m sure they will come crawling back to consumers after the AI bubble bursts.
Shits wild the same ram I bought over a year ago is 400% more for half the amount of GB.
Damn…
Business don’t care about consumers because nowadays business sell to other business
Nowadays? It’s always been the case. It’s far easier and less hassle to sell to or work for other businesses. I run an IT service company and I avoid residential work line the plague. It can sometimes make me more money, but over all it is horrible as opposed to work done for other companies.
For a second I thought Micron was an insult for Macron.
Since nobody can afford memory, this means mainboards and cases will get cheaper, right?
Or… we could learn to code software so the average mouse driver doesn’t require a gig of free RAM, 10 gigs of swap space, and 15 CPU cores?
Just a thought.
The mouse driver is already part of the OS in Window and Linux.
That shit you complain about is the Adverts Delivery & Private Data Capture application.
I believe that was implied
I agree, but how does this help me building an affordable gaming rig?
affordable gaming rig?
Those words don’t usually come together…
Not anymore.
Translation, Micron is shutting down Crucial for short term shareholder value at the cost of a sustainable and proven long term brand and channel.
It’s not just for shareholder value, like a downsize or stock buyback would achieve. This will literally fill their coffers to the brim faster than staying in the consumer market. Also the consumer market won’t go away anytime soon and there are very few competitors to begin with. They can just return to the consumer market once the AI bubble has burst like nothing has changed. Only difference is they will have way more money in the bank than if they never left.
They will return to the market with a new brand once the bubble bursts.
Probably just the same brand, honestly?
News two years from now: “Crucial back in business”
Three years; why is no one buying our crucial ram , hopefully
Depends on how proud they are and if they’d want to retract their statements of going after AI instead of consumers or not.
I don’t think there’s any pride in it, they are just going after what is the most profitable at any given time.
That’s exactly why I suspect they will choose to resurrect the Crucial name later, because given a choice between launching a new name nobody knows, or a name people recognise (even if it’s been tarred a bit) then recognised will be the winning and more profitable option.
That is, if they haven’t sold the Crucial name to someone else first.
I can see both happening.
I’d say: We will see (thumbsup)
My 5-year-old mainboard only supports DDR4. I’m just looking to increase my RAM and have two free slots available. But even the prices of DDR4 sticks have increased 100%-200% compared to a year ago.
They are more affordable than DDR5 sticks to be sure but still crazy.
A decent chunk of that is due to DDR4 production shutting down. If you look to the past you can see that DDR3 prices rose a while after the introduction of DDR4 too. In fact it got more expensive than DDR4, before vanishing completely.
Another thing driving up prices is tariffs and trade restrictions - usually when the main players like Micron, SK Hynix, or Samsung want to stop selling certain chips (say, DRAM at a certain binned frequency), they sell to Chinese manufacturers who are willing to sell slightly lower quality NAND for a lower profit margin.
But that’s not happening - the Chinese companies aren’t buying up the machines like they used to, because a tariff could easily wipe out their margins. It’s not worth the risk.
Add AI to that (not that many are using DDR4), and it makes a bad situation worse.
The AI aspect may get better soon, but the top two won’t. I don’t think you’ll be able to get new DDR4 for a good price at any point going ahead. Your best bet is to buy used if you see a reasonable deal.
Good points. Looking at eBay, the sellers of used DDR4 seem to have caught on to the price increases and are asking for the same unpleasant prices. I guess the best time to buy more RAM was a year ago and the second best time for it is now.
I built a god rig in 2022, i bought the best 64gb ddr5 4-stick ram kit i could, an nvidia 4090, the best processor i could, and attached it to the best mobo i could.
I spent about 4800.
My pc is now worth about 6500.
This is some crazy ass shit. Never should a pc appreciate in value.
What the hell is going on???
AI companies are buying up all of the RAM in a futile bit to reach AGI.
And haven’t even achieved AI yet. What we call “AI” is still nothing more than an upjumped calculator.
In addition, we haven’t even come up with a definition of intelligence.
To quote a recent post “we taught computers to talk like middle managers and assumed that meant computers were sentient, rather than assuming that middle managers aren’t”
I bought a fairly good custom build in April of this year for A$3218.
The same approximate build now costs A$4783 on their website.
AI is really ruining fucking everything. The enviorment, entertainement, music, art, jobs, reality, freedom / privacy / rights.
No, corporate greed is ruining everything with AI.
Because you know if they built a super-AI that give them perfect instructions on how to build Earth into a paradise, but it would require they give up 1/4 of their wealth, they’d be reaching for the reset button before it finished printing them out…
They don’t even need that. current AI will tell them that. They’ve actually ran these questions and they ignore the answer every time
Elon has to keep “dewoking” Grok. Sure, it’s still an awful model, probably the most disinformative, but it’s funny that it keeps revering back to neutral or pro progressive values, while calling out Elon
The fact people are blaming the tech rather than the tech bros is a big part of why this keeps happening.
Its the decision of real people that make this situation suck.
Indeed.
I have a model running locally on my NAS that does image recognition for photos in my Immich app (think Google Photos, but private). It does a decent job and runs well on AMD integrated graphics on a Ryzen 5 3400G. I just search for [daughter’s name], and there she is.
I use Firefox’s translation feature (that also runs locally and can run on low end hardware).
My sister is blind and uses an AI assisted screen reader that works way better than what she was using before.
The issue isn’t AI/machine learning in itself, it’s this tech bro arms race. It’s them manipulating models to push agendas. It’s them shoehorning an LLM into every fucking Google query. It’s them telling companies they can fire all their staff and rely on LLMs.
Yeah but we can’t possibly hold people accountable for the actions of their company, think of the shareholders!
Capitalism is the biggest religion of today, and it’s su successful it can coexist with a lot of other religions.
It’s not AI destroying the environment and making us miserable, it’s th pursuit of profit. It’s not “corporate greed” sucking us dry. Corporations are greedy by design under Capitalism, that’s the whole point. It’s not bad CEOs making evil decisions. It’s the system that allows such wealth and power to exist.
All of those problems are systemic, not bad people making bad decisions. Treating capitalism like law of nature won’t fix anything.
Oh we certainly can (blockchain bubble).
A fun reminder that during the pandemic, before AI, there was a backlog in new cars because all the crucial chips were unavailable due to an increase in bullshit like wifi enabled toasters.
It has nothing to do with AI. Consumers are asking for this shit and companies are delivering.
No one is asking for ads on their fridge. You are really underestimating the cartel like behavior of business in general now.
And it will burst and mostly disappear, taking with it half the economy, thousands of jobs, and become a military industrial complex blackbox tax sponge, the worst of all possible outcomes.
First blockchain shit now AI shit (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻)
It’s capitalism, it’ll never end. Working as intended.
But on the other hand, it’s really polite about me knowing nothing about anything, so I think we should invest all the money on Earth into it.
My next computer will be a bag of LSD and YouTube Longplays.
As someone who spent the majority of the '10s with a similar rig as you described, make sure you work nights and have an SO that tolerates whatever nonsense you are blathering about when she gets home.
I had to look it up. The RAM I bought 12 months ago for $99 is now $350. This is insane.
My ddr4 now costs more than I bought it for originally. This after having dipped below $70 for 32GB. Now it’s over 300.
Great. What SSDs are worth buying then? Kioxia? Solidigm? Never going to buy WD, Samsung is on my shit list too but if there’s no other options left…
Samsung is in my shitlist for their horrible shady business with their smartphones, but even tho I want to never buy anything Samsung again I still think their m.2 SSDs are really good, did something happen with that division that showed it’s also shitty? I want to know and hate even more on Samsung
Story why I hate Samsung (was too long to put in the middle): bought a s21 fe thinking I’m getting a snapdragon processor, they hid never mentioned anywhere in the page that this specific model has their piece of shit exynos processor that literally struggles to run anything, overheats if it isn’t on battery saving mode and goes through the battery like it’s on sale
This has got to be some sort of psyop
OpenAI bought 40% of the world’s DRAM.
They bought them as whole wafers (not finished chips!) from SK Hynix and Samsung.
Then they put them in a warehouse
All of that is confirmed, btw. The part below is my speculation:
To me, that reads as if they’re using VC money to drive up RAM prices, hoping that their competitors (who are catching up) can’t buy more RAM.
It’s so anticompetitive it’s unbelievable. And of course, normal buyers are the most fucked over.
So where are the regulators right now? Oh yes, they’ve all been completely gutted by the governments.
I dont even want to build a computer anymore, finally saved up some money and I shouldve just continued spending it on overpriced festivals (crazy how it also used to be a deal and now its just 500$ minimum for ticket and shitty hotel)
