• Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world
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    2 hours ago

    Liam has taught me that I need protein, but really I just need A LOT more fiber*___*

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      I forget what the exact stat is, but something like 20% of Americans don’t get enough protein vs 97% don’t get enough fiber.

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        Depends on what you call enough protein. Part of the point of those pushing protein is the claim that most people need a lot more than government standards

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    Have you noticed the new way of promoting horrible food by telling you it has lots of protein

    Kind of, but it’s definitely nothing new in my part of the world at least. And I’m guessing you weren’t around in the USA for the Atkins craze (or just didn’t notice) when grocery shelves and fridges/freezers were littered with high fat, high protein versions of just about every ultra processed food item you can imagine with giant call outs on the front about how much protein they had (and then fat content only disclosed via the nutrition label).

    The behavior that makes my eyes roll are the foods that emphasize their protein content despite the product not being a particularly good nor dense source of it. For instance, a 50g cereal bar with a spiel on the front along the lines of “3 grams of protein in every serving”. Okay, so like, okay? And? I probably get more protein every night from the spiders I swallow in my sleep.

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    I don’t understand. We can eat steak, chicken, chorizo, jerkey, turkey, parm, eggs, they’re all absolutely delicious; noooo we eat pea and whey protien bars that taste like cold garbage.

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    I literally saw protein ice cream pints the other day. 460 calories, but it has 30g of protein! For when you’re depressed and eating a pint by yourself, but still need your gains. I guess.

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    “Zero carb!” - a ton of artificial sweetener and fats. Makes up for the carbs twice over with fat, leading to pretty high caloric density

    “Source of protein! - has some protein in it, perhaps more than another product in the category, but protein still is probably less than 50% of the carb content by mass, and also has fat. Never mind the quality or bioavailability of the protein.

    Protein is starting to enter the zeitgeist as something that is helpful for muscle maintenance during weight loss and for helping with satiety. But like anything, if you don’t pay attention, reading the ad copy not going to help reach your goals.

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      “Zero carb!” - a ton of artificial sweetener and fats. Makes up for the carbs twice over with fat, leading to pretty high caloric density

      That’s generally what you want when you’re eating low carb. Although the type of fat is important.

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        Yes, but if you put away 5 keto protein balls (10g protein, 30g fat) you’re eating a lot of calories that 10g protein, 20g carbs (including fibre) wouldn’t provide. My point is that just putting the label on it doesn’t make it conducive to your goals.

        That’s before we get into “keto” products with 30-50g carbs per serving.

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    I thought we exited this phase quite a few years back. Has it made a return? Are there wheat cereals advertising protein that’ll shit straight out of me because I do zero exercise again?

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      This phase never ended. My wife asks about protein shakes all the time, and I asked here where she’s getting the questions from. Tik Tok. All the influencers are still hyping it.

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      It’s particularly bizarre this time, it seems to have infected the home cook space too, every other recipe is about maximizing protein intake. I’m not sure where the sudden obsession came from and I have yet to find anyone who can give a clear even somewhat verifiable answer.

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        I’m gonna guess the protein powder industry sponsoring fitness and food influencers.

        Look how many recipes have protein powder in them.

        Next up creatine powders. “Have you heard creatine, protein doughnut bites?!”

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      I was at a theme park a little ago and really in need of a cup of coffee. So I strolled into their Starbucks sponsored coffee shop because that’s all there was. And sure enough, they were advertising various drinks, coffees, with protein added.

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        I have it on good authority that the Starbucks protein coffee gives you the double-shits.

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      Now that is pure protein without calories. And you burn calories from the effort of “eating” it

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    it’s so you can eat things that taste like they’re made of corn syrup but are actually made of whey.

    like you don’t have to change your eating habits, but you can meet your macros without going over your calorie limit

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      No whey.

      But, have you ever considered how much protein your body should have in a meal? Eating too much protein can also be malnutrition. To your point it’s better to have too much protein than too much fat. However if it tastes like it’s full of corn syrup, it probably still is. Or some “healthy” artificial sweetener which your body thinks is the same yet is still empty carbohydrates.

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        Eating too much protein can also be malnutrition.

        yeah, I better get back to (over) eating the even worse shit.

        When people start eating like this, it’s almost always better than what they were eating before, and if you are doing hard exercise and desperately trying to recover from muscle pains due to exercising, and restricting calories, you need a lot of protein.

        Remember, you need protein to recover AND to avoid losses from calorie restrictions.

        https://tdeemacros.com/

        Do the math on trying to achieve that much protein intake when you’re restricting to that few calories and what you can and can’t eat within a day with regular meals.

        Now think about when you have cravings to eating the junk food you used to eat.

        no shit people want to eat the protein bars. leave them the fuck alone, they’re fighting internal demons.

        Or some “healthy” artificial sweetener which your body thinks is the same yet is still empty carbohydrates.

        … I don’t even know where to go with this. Artificial sweeteners are basically calorie free, so they aren’t “empty carbohydrates” they’re basically the equivalent of oregano or cumin for sweetness. Most of them are made from plants that aren’t sugarcane, and would taste horrible if they were not diluted and processed.

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          I think the jury is still out on artificial sweeteners.

          I think anyone that thinks eating something that tastes like a candy bar can be healthy is lying to themselves. I also think there are issues introduced when you are absorbing refined highly processed nutrients. Issues that might seem unrelated but can affect your health more long term.

          Your body isn’t just a machine that you can add the correct mixture of things to for proper maintenance. It’s a messy biological system that is dependent on evolutionary history, and there’s a lot of unknowns that have yet to be studied at all.

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            oh you know what, you’re right. I should go back to eating healthy refined sugar in chocolate bars, and wash it down with fried chicken instead.

            You don’t understand anything about weight loss or why people are obese in the first place. Even if you’re correct (which, there isn’t complete , substantial evidence for), the sweeteners are there to replace worse behaviour that does have concrete , substantial evidence of massive harm.

            “healthy” is an incredibly loaded term , especially when you’re talking about things that have artificial sweeteners. What’s the rest of the foodstuff made of? what would be eaten instead? how much is eaten? why? etc etc.

            be straight up with me. what’s your weight? have you struggled with weight loss in the past? what do you eat? Because you’re very judgemental and toxic in a topic that over 30% of the human population struggle with.

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              I’m not sure where you think I’m saying you should eat candy bars. You’re projecting someone else’s opinion on my comment. I didn’t say those things.

              Firstly, there’s not a single reason that people are obese. And secondly being at a goal weight doesn’t mean that you are either healthy or fit.

              If one is to substitute known unhealthy things for possibly harmful things instead of improving their life in general, that’s like giving up cigarettes for vaping in my opinion. Artificial sweeteners could be causing massive harm in ways that are less obvious and harder to pin on diet, but for me, I don’t eat them because they taste terrible. I’d rather not eat sweets as often and have treats made from less refined, more natural ingredients than to eat things with artificial sweeteners and protein packed in for the sake of marketing.

              Your accusations of me being judgemental and toxic are interesting, but I’m not going to take the bait. I don’t owe you an explanation of my nuanced opinion outside of the few reasons I’ve already listed.